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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
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40020.397 
There, this will serve as a reminder and also help spread the gospel! 
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Windows 8 - We hate it in the pants!
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)     
40020.398 In reply to 40020.395 
The contents of your panties are frilly? :S

 

 

 

                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  arq (ARQUETURUS)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.399 In reply to 40020.394 
Some other things that aren't quite ready.  I might have said this already.  When adding a device, for example a bluetooth device, you can add it using the new interface, but you can't do anything else using that interface.  If you want to edit it or connect you have to go to the control panel/printers and devices to actually do anything useful.

I thought I found something else, but I can't remember right now.


Maybe this is just shit design (distinct possibility!) or maybe it's the standard user/power user split again? Standard users just don't add in stuff that often and when they do, they don't tinker versus power users wanting to fiddle with everything and there's already a perfect way to do that - desktop\control panel.

I don't know Ken, if there's one impression I've got from you is that you want to be able to to do everything you would normally would do but in the new interface which is absolutely correct. However MS haven't aimed it at users like you, they've aimed it at users like my wife that just want to push buttons and have things work with a minimum of fuss.

Usage wise I sit between you and my wife - I don't use the start menu often (all my games bar a tiny few run through Steam - boy would I loved something in metro for Steam but that's another story) and I don't fuck around with any sort of gadgetry that much, dock my phone occasionally and dock my iPod occasionally but I'm still savvy enough/or have need at times to go under the bonnet (hood for you colonials) so it seems to suit me great.

This is how I use Windows 8:
 

  • Turn on my PC (I've disabled log on prompts).
  • Glance at some live tiles to see if there's anything new.
  • Switch to desktop.

**1 - 12 hours time elapses**
  • Turn off my PC

Oddly enough, turning off is the one thing that Mrs arq has issues remembering how to do :D
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  koswix     
40020.400 In reply to 40020.398 
Then it's no wonder she hates it.

Me
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  arq (ARQUETURUS)     
40020.401 In reply to 40020.399 
I hear ya!

But you can't even use that device menu to connect to a device.  You can use it to pair a device,  but that's it.  You can use it to add a printer, but that's it.  You can't adjust any settings or see anything other than the device name from that screen.  I think it's 1/2 baked, I think you're right about that.
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 From:  arq (ARQUETURUS)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.402 In reply to 40020.401 
I just told my wife what you said and her eyes glazed over at device.

This is who Windows 8/Metro is aimed at - it's Fisher Price WindowsTM  :'-D
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  arq (ARQUETURUS)     
40020.403 In reply to 40020.402 
ha. I do like the interface when I use it for touch. But honestly it's not happened very often.  I think they really messed up cramming everything into one version like they did.
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 From:  arq (ARQUETURUS)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.404 In reply to 40020.403 
I agree, why not simple make it possible to toggle on and off? As much as I might have appeared to be an advocate of Windows 8 that isn't the case. I love the 'style' of Metro, I like all the enhancements that Windows 8 generally brings to the such as improved Task Manager, file copy and better multi-monitor support, it's also a masterpiece in compatibility with legacy stuff but when it comes down to it, the way I use Windows means I don't come into contact with Metro so if I had the option, I'd likely turn it off.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  arq (ARQUETURUS)     
40020.405 In reply to 40020.404 
Same here. I could avoid using it and be happy.  Even when using my touchscreen.  I love the tile idea for Windows Phone.  On that form factor it's sweet, and original.  And even on my laptop it's not terrible.  But anyone who's been using a computer very long already has their favorite websites that do everything the live tiles do.

It's funny, I set my wallpaper to change every 30 minutes the other day.  Then I realized that I see my desktop when I start work and when I end work.  There is always something (usually a browser or email program) opened.  So if the desktop is that low on the view list, the new start screen is even lower than that to me!  Maybe in a few years we will look back and wonder how we ever lived without it, but I don't see that happening with me.

Ah, another thing is the apps update separate from Windows.  So now you have to check two places to make sure you're up to date. 
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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.406 In reply to 40020.397 
Sweet, thanks!

There might be a few more polar bears wandering about the place if more people wanted them for breakfast
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 From:  Radio  
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Just bought, as I realised that the 'special offer' price of £25 finishes next week, and I'm bound to want win8 at some point. Downloaded the iOS and about to burn to disk.
I'm wondering though, is now a good time to invest in an ssd? Ebuyer have 120GB ones for about £80 which seems a lot better than the last time I looked!
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
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40020.408 
A few months later and I still haven't tried it!
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Radio     
40020.409 In reply to 40020.407 
SSDs have come down in price significantly but be wary of the budget drives and the controllers they use. There are a lot of cheaper lesser performing drives now available.

Ideally get one with a Sandforce controller or better. And if you can afford it try to get one that offers 500MB/sec read and write speeds.

doohicky

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 From:  Radio  
 To:  Matt     
40020.410 In reply to 40020.409 
So this then?
http://www.ebuyer.com/266526-crucial-128gb-m4-ssd-ct128m4ssd2
Although it seems they're all 2.5" which I hadn't realised, so will need to convert too, another fiver or so.
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 From:  Radio  
 To:  Matt     
40020.411 In reply to 40020.409 
Sorry, you said sand force, so it would be this one I think:
http://www.ebuyer.com/259774-ocz-120gb-vertex-3-ssd-vtx3-25sat3-120g
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Radio     
40020.412 In reply to 40020.411 
Yep, that OCZ one is a good choice.

(Doesn't look like it comes with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter like they used to, don't forget one.)

doohicky

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Matt     
40020.413 In reply to 40020.409 
This is what my drive is rated at, is it any good?

•Performance 
   − Host transfer rate: 600 MB/s
   − Sequential Read : Up to 500MB/s (32/64/128/256GB)
− Sequential Write : Up to 260MB/s (256GB), Up to 255MB/s (128GB),
                                   Up to 170MB/s (64GB), Up to 90MB/s (32GB)
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.414 In reply to 40020.413 
Yes, just probably not as good as some others. What controller does it have?

doohicky

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Matt     
40020.415 In reply to 40020.414 
Intel 7 Series.
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.416 In reply to 40020.415 
I'm sure its fine.

doohicky

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