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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 Jan 2013 06:33
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	372 of 432

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http://www.tehforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40020.358 quote: The workaround for the dropped Print Screen key is to press the volume-down key on the left side of the Surface while simultaneously pressing the device's home button, which sports the streamlined Windows icon. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	5 Jan 2013 06:39
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	373 of 432

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Yup, right in front of me. I misunderstood that as the windows key and not the button. My mind was just focused on the keyboard!

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 Jan 2013 06:40
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	374 of 432

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(hug) (tbh, flash the thing and stick Debian on there) , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	5 Jan 2013 06:41
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nah, I'm actually liking 8 on this. Dell has done a great job on this device!

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 Jan 2013 06:45
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	376 of 432

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Then YOU ARE COMPLICIT IN DESTROYING THE PC AS A (somewhat) OPEN PLATFORM and I'm going to get the Feds to say something bad on you because what I say are truth and they don't like it. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	5 Jan 2013 06:58
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	377 of 432

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Good God man, I don't think you understand the gravity of what you say! I'm not pleased with that part, but would you expect anything less from a dying giant?

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 Jan 2013 08:03
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	378 of 432

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This is how dying giants are reborn! , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	graphitone	5 Jan 2013 09:58
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	379 of 432

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What's the gestation period for a giant? Drawings n' that

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 Jan 2013 10:27
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I'm pretty sure they reproduce asexually, there being no females. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	graphitone	5 Jan 2013 21:41
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	381 of 432

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I believe the same is true for Ents. Drawings n' that

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	13 Jan 2013 21:11
To:	ALL	382 of 432

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So how are you all finding it now? Especially Ken. I'm only interested in non-touch experience (yj) The reason being that when t'job ends, I may take on some consultancy, so I should be running MicrosoftO rather than iWorks. Plus I'd like a stats plug-in for Excel. So my options are Office 2011 Mac or Office 2010 on Windows and Parallels (re-booting is too much a PITA). So, I can purchase W7 Home Premium for CHF180, or W8 OEM/System Builder (64-bit) for CHF95. (Or stick to the native Mac version for reduced rapgae by scummwarez) So, for someone who cares not for charms (other than those of a nubile wench) and 'a new way of doing things' (i.e. using windows how he's used to) how usable is W8? bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	13 Jan 2013 21:15
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	383 of 432

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The consensus seems to be that Win8 is no worse than Win7. If you don't get on with Metro then then you can install a 3rd party thing which restores the start menu and all that and then it's pretty much indistinguishable from Win7 in use. I've seen no compelling reason to switch if you're starting from 7. But since you're buying new I suspect you'd find little difference either way. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	13 Jan 2013 21:22
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	384 of 432

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I have been running it now since it RTM's on my laptop that I share with my wife. I am getting used to the short cut keys but spend most of my time running non metro applications. The boot-up and shut-down speed is great when paired with a SSD but with a magnetic disk its pretty much the same speed as 7. I really don't see it gracing my beasty any time soon, Windows 7 does everything that I need it to do, I doubt I will put it on when it comes to annual rebuild time. My wife likes it though, she gets what she wants from TIFKAM and tends to only go to desktop if an application takes her there. Some good parts some Vista parts but generally not fussed if have to use it. Great for people that just want something to work, not so great for people that like to actually use a computer to work, game, generally break things.

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	13 Jan 2013 22:09
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	385 of 432

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Thanks, both. But all this 'Metro' and 'TIFKAM' confuses me. I just want to use office. I don't really need to learn new paradigms. I've no interest (that I'm aware of) in new software or apps. Should I be scared? Will running W8 (even in Parallels) open up my computer to bum-rape from Eastern Europe? bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	13 Jan 2013 22:25
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Yes. You will be happier with Win7. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	14 Jan 2013 04:14
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'tis OK, like my lover Drew said, no worse than 7 other than the fucked up start menu. I do appreciate that start menu, but not in the context you asked about. In desktop mode they should have left the old start menu and button. Been using it for a long time, full time now, and no one is going to change my mind about that. I find myself in desktop mode ~95% of the time, so I've just resorted to pinning my most used programs like I did in 7. I have also been using the windows button/start typing thing and it works, but pretty much the same as the old start menu search box did. So I'd say install it and piss with it. It will frustrate you for awhile and then it won't. Not because MS was right, just because you get used to using shit I guess.

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	14 Jan 2013 08:22
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But will I my Mac still be bum-raped? bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	14 Jan 2013 08:26
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	389 of 432

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I can get a legit copy of W8 for half the price of W7 (because the PUL covers OEM versions for virtual machines), so if I go with Windows, I think that might be the version for me. I'll just pin all the office apps (somewhere). But but but ... Windows :-& bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	milko	14 Jan 2013 09:13
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You'll be amazed by the file manager that is actually sometimes useful, and things like that!

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From:	Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)	18 Jan 2013 14:26
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I hate it in the pants. I've been running it since release day and although I can see that Metro would be rather lovely on a tablet, it's got no place on a desktop setup (or traditional laptop for that matter). Windows 8 broke a lot of stuff that I had running. I don't know if it's a codec thing or what, but streaming performance to my 360 took a nosedive as did picture quality on certain types of files that had played wonderfully before. Installing the same codec packs I had on Windows 7 proved fruitless (all irrelevant now I have my NAS transcoding everything it needs to now). Nevertheless, I can't help but hate it. I want Metro gone, I hate all the apps and will be installing Windows 7 back on it as soon as I can. I realise I'll have to bite the bullet sooner or later, but maybe that later will be Windows 9 when Metro (or TIKFAM) is more mature and actually takes the desktop user into consideration. I know it's just a jumped up start menu, but it's messy, poorly implemented, nothing's where I expect it to be and why the fuck is making a desktop shortcut such a pain in the arse now. Graaar! EDIT: The wife also hates it. In the panties. There might be a few more polar bears wandering about the place if more people wanted them for breakfast

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