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 From:  Mouse  
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40020.188 
Bring a Statistician in here stat!

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Mouse     
40020.189 In reply to 40020.188 
He can count me both as liking Windows 7 and saying Windows 8 is shit.


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 From:  Dave!!  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
40020.190 In reply to 40020.187 
Vista flopped - and mainly because it was shite (cue a couple of people rising to defend it).

Let's face it, It wasn't radically different from XP from a user interface point of view (start menu, desktop, all "check"). Furthermore, there had been a wait of over 5 years since XP was released (longest in the history of Windows). The world was ready for a new version of Windows, just not for the sluggish, buggy and annoying turd that was Vista. And let's face it, it was Vista's crap reputation which sank it, not because everyone suddenly started praising XP as being the best thing since sliced bread!

For Windows 8, it's a different story. Windows 7 was only released 3 years ago and for some people, they've only just finished upgrading to it (especially for businesses). The need for a new version of Windows is less, and this is likely to affect adoption rates - regardless of how good or bad Windows 8 is. We've no plans to move to Windows 8 where I work, but that's mainly because I'm still busy removing the last straggling XP machines.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dave!!     
40020.191 In reply to 40020.190 
(7 years between xp and vista)
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 From:  koswix  
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40020.192 
So should Rendle upgrade me to Windows 8 for 15 quid?

 

 

 

                                                
                                                
                                                
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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.
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 From:  patch  
 To:  koswix     
40020.193 In reply to 40020.192 
Why not? The worst that happens is you downgrade again afterwards.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  patch     
40020.194 In reply to 40020.193 
That's a pain in the arse, though.

Are there any features or capabilities that are indisputably better than Windows 7? Have they got that fancy new file system they've been going on about since Vista sorted yet?

 

 

 

                                                
                                                
                                                
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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  Dave!!     
40020.195 In reply to 40020.190 
True enough, but the analogy between XP/Visa and W7/W8 still stands. Vista flopped not just because it was buggy, but because XP was good enough. In the case of W8 it's not necessarily bugginess that stands in its way but the UI or 'fear of the unknown'. And W7 is still good enough.

The disparity between XP and Vista may well be greater than that between W7 and W8 though, so yeah rock'n'roll.

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 From:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)  
 To:  koswix     
40020.196 In reply to 40020.194 
You can get Angry Birds: Star Wars for it in the Store. And Pinball FX 2. And it does start up and shut down very rapidly, and I really quite like the Start Screen, but you need to invest some time in learning keyboard shortcuts and that. Which you should anyway. Mouses are for WIMPs. LOL.

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 From:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)  
 To:  Dave!!     
40020.197 In reply to 40020.190 
I think Windows 8 is not targeting the enterprise. Microsoft are well aware that Windows 7 either still is being, or has only recently been, rolled out in most large companies, achieving the aim of getting them off XP. So it's a good time to play catch-up in the consumer market, give OEMs a damn good reason to make PCs and devices with touch-screens, give developers a year or so to get to grips with WinRT and Metro and touch and all that, roll out half-yearly 8.x updates, and do Windows 9 some time in 2014 with a more convincing story for corporate customers.

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 From:  koswix  
 To:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)     
40020.198 In reply to 40020.196 
Weakly interacting massive particles?

 

 

 

                                                
                                                
                                                
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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.
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 From:  JonCooper  
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40020.199 
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achieving the aim of getting them off XP



just spent the evening fighting with the microsoft update site trying to get XP installed and updated




oh, and doing a quote on this post was real hard work, couldn't get my cursor out of the quote box
ended up doing the quote last

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)     
40020.200 In reply to 40020.197 
Windows 9 some time in 2014 with a more convincing story for corporate customers.

Hopefully by then they'll have had time to do something truly innovative. Like adding an easily-accessed launchpad for applications, settings, etc. They could put it on a menu that's activated by a button. Say, in the lower left-hand corner of the screen. LOLZ.

There you go, Baldy Balmer, take it for nothing or do the honourable thing and pay me for my idea. Three brick good for you?

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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)  
 To:  koswix     
40020.201 In reply to 40020.198 
Windows, Icons, Menus, Pointer...

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 From:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
40020.202 In reply to 40020.200 
It's more likely that general hand-wavery and sotto voce commands will be the order of the day. We're probably within 10 years of the end of screens of any sort, as long as we can get the neo-Luddites to embrace change instead of fighting it.

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)     
40020.203 In reply to 40020.202 
That'll go down well in open-plan offices.

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
40020.204 In reply to 40020.202 
HE'S TALKING ABOUT YOU!
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 From:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
40020.205 In reply to 40020.203 
Why on earth would you need to go to an office?

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)     
40020.206 In reply to 40020.205 
The Man demands it :(

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Dave!!     
40020.207 In reply to 40020.190 
While I agree that Vista was slow and sluggish, they made a huge change to the code that made it much more secure.  That caused all kinds of issues with devices not working and new drivers needing made (I know you already know this, just typing it anyway).  So I can forgive a lot of the issues with Vista because it was a very needed change in the right direction, especially for security.  8 is just a steaming pile of shit that they tried to polish, but they didn't wait until it was hard enough and now it's just smeared all over the place!


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