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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.21 In reply to 39861.20 
Ah come on, its hardly fair to use logic and reason against him. They're nothing but tools of the Zionist conspiracy.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.22 In reply to 39861.20 
"we can never be certain of anything"

Au contraire, I am quite certain of the beer that I have here. Right here, right now! :Y

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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.

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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      
39861.23 In reply to 39861.22 
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Au contraire, I am quite certain of the beer that I have here. Right here, right now!


You say that, but I bet it's no longer there now. *That's* how tenuous reality is.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   
 To:  Manthorp     
39861.24 In reply to 39861.23 

OMG, how coud I have been so short-sighted?
It's a sad truther that that beer is no longer here. But it was lovely while it lasted. The reality may have been fleeting, but at least we had Paris.

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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.

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Message 39861.25 deleted 22 May 2015 14:58 by 53NORTH

 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Al JunioR (53NORTH)     
39861.26 In reply to 39861.25 
Can you provide any links since you're the person in the know about it?
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Al JunioR (53NORTH)     
39861.27 In reply to 39861.25 

Of course, the cover up.

 

The good news is that you can carry on feeling all smug and in the know while I carry on dismissing all claims that come my way without a single shred of proof. You're no better than the average creationist, really.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.28 In reply to 39861.27 
(Creationism isn't a problem, I hope we don't fall into that American habit of mixing up creationism with bible literalism. I don't think many people would object to the philosophical proposition that there was some intelligent impetus involved in the creation of the universe, since it's no less absurd than that happening without any impetus at all. That's creationism. It's the idea that shit happened literally as per Genesis, that 6000 years ago God created the universe and populated it with all the plants and animals which exist today (or whatever) that's fucking stupid and deserves ridicule.)
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.29 In reply to 39861.28 
That's pretty much my view. Which means I generally class myself as being Agnostic.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.30 In reply to 39861.28 
I'm going to be awkward and point out that I used the term "creationist" in the popular and accepted sense of the word. Both the OED and Cambridge Dictionary back me up here :D
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.31 In reply to 39861.30 
Well that's an American (and clearly wrong) usage. But you do say 'mom' :|

(Wikipedia describes it far better)

If 'creationism' meant 'bible literalist creationism' (as you suggest) then 'evolutionary creationism' (described near the bottom of that page), which is the position of the Catholic church (amongst others) would make absolutely no sense.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.32 In reply to 39861.31 
Yes, but like I say, I used it in the popular and accepted meaning of the word. It was clear from my context what I was referring to, so there's no issue of confusion is there?
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.33 In reply to 39861.32 
Yeah there is. It confuses the argument and is unfair to genuine creationists who get lumped in with groups who are incredibly stupid and often evil.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.34 In reply to 39861.33 
Well, fortunately for us, there is no higher authority in language and popular meaning. You'll just have to group this with annoyances like "Photoshop to mean editing an image in any piece of software" and the term "Hoover" to mean any vacuum cleaner.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
39861.35 In reply to 39861.34 
Yes there is, there's PB.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.36 In reply to 39861.35 
:D
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39861.37 In reply to 39861.36 
(hug)
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.38 In reply to 39861.28 
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I don't think many people would object to the philosophical proposition that there was some intelligent impetus involved in the creation of the universe


me - I object

you know when you leave an Orange for a while and the outside goes all green etc?

That's us - we are the mouldy crap on the surface of the Earth, we shouldn't be here and it's all just a huge accident

Jon
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  JonCooper     
39861.39 In reply to 39861.38 
That's fine. But that's going from something to something. Going from nothing to something is more philosophically problematic.
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39861.40 In reply to 39861.39 
nah, in the vastness of the universe it pretty much had to happen somewhere - why here? cos we are still stuck where the accident occurred

Jon
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