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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Al JunioR (53NORTH)      
39777.41 In reply to 39777.40 
Olympics
weird
looking
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Al JunioR (53NORTH)      
39777.42 In reply to 39777.40 
Please show me where Beijing admitted this.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.43 In reply to 39777.42 
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/409794/weather-engineering-in-china/
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.44 In reply to 39777.42 
The work of the Office is largely aimed at hailstorm prevention or making rain to end droughts;
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Their technology was also used to create snow on New Year's Day in 1997.
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they were enlisted by the Chinese government to ensure that the 2008 Summer Olympics are free of rain
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Other proposed future uses for induced precipitation include lowering temperatures in summer, in hopes of reducing electricity consumption.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.45 In reply to 39777.43 
That's cloud seeding. That's... mild tampering with the weather.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.46 In reply to 39777.45 
So you're saying that making sure clouds rain before/after a specific area is not controlling the weather for that area?

Or are you just disappointed because it's not total control, and you wanted to find out they had a magic machine that could muster up a thunderstorm just by pulling a lever?
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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.47 In reply to 39777.46 
It's semantics, but I wouldn't really consider faffing around with clouds isn't really the same as making changes to a huge weather system. It's kind of like calling a bit of gardening terraforming.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.48 In reply to 39777.46 
What Dan said. 53 was implying a more profound weather control, talking about cloud systems over Island influencing weather in London.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
39777.49 In reply to 39777.47 
The phrase "total control" (etc) exists because simply "control" itself is NOT defined as being absolute, or even significant.

Control is specifically described as "power to influence or guide" and "a means of limitation", and thus faffing with clouds is well within the acceptable description of "controlling the weather", because the weather was influenced and limited by not raining over the designated area.

Nobody made any claims about being in total control of huge weather systems.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.50 In reply to 39777.48 
Was he? You're reading that the "massive weird" system (no mention of clouds) is being claimed to be man-made because you want to believe that (or at least believe that he believes it).

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Beijing admitted it was controlling the weather for their Olympics, but all we see is a strange system over Eire, luckily keeping the weather reasonable for ours.

See?

You've already complained that he's acting too much like a fortune teller or astrologer, with wishy washy statements that don't mean anything, but now you're trying to pin down those statements by injecting them with your own meaning, instead of taking them at face value.
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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.51 In reply to 39777.49 
Presumably owning a hat is low level weather control.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Manthorp     
39777.52 In reply to 39777.51 
Especially one lined with tin or lead. :)
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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.53 In reply to 39777.52 
As worn by every well-dressed Teher.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.54 In reply to 39777.50 
Contextually, it was implied.

Seeding clouds isn't controlling the weather in any meaningful sense, it's influencing it a bit.

I'm not injecting meaning, just trying to find some.

Really don't care enough to argue this and there's a thunderstorm so I'm going to walk in the rain (which I personally believe was caused by our secret overlords from Uranus).
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.55 In reply to 39777.54 
If you see lightning coming towards you, give it a wave from me. :)
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39777.56 In reply to 39777.54 

what about the beaming technology? or was that just for shifting tectonic plates?

 

[edit] ah bugger, this was meant for PB


Jon
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  JonCooper     
39777.57 In reply to 39777.56 
You mean this:
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looks like they're using 2 or 3 beams to try and reposition the tectonic plate, with magma being forced Northward into the Kurils
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The Yank beam has been smoothing Alaska and letting California and Central America move in jolts.


Nothing to do with weather.

A quick search suggests that laser beams are used to measure the velocity of tectonic places - I didn't find anything to suggests that anyone is warming/cooling magma to try and change their movements.

If it was as widespread as "China, Japan, USA. Russia. also Oz, South Africa maybe, NATO, probably France, maybe Canada" doing it, then I would expect to find at least some hint of something.

*shrug*
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39777.58 In reply to 39777.57 
tbh, it all blends into one, so many odd thoughts at once

Jon
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