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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
39653.73 In reply to 39653.72 
(Actual mate, BTW, not just me in a dress under stress)

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
39653.74 In reply to 39653.72 
Is there direct proof that first of all the stress is causing the teeth issues? And then is there proof that the stress is caused by work?
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.75 In reply to 39653.74 
Good question - a quick search tells me stress is generally one of the main reasons for teethgrinding, and he's been getting messed around at work a lot recently (covering people (off with stress!), massive increases to his own workload, working unclaimed hours to get stuff done, that kind of thing). I don't know how you go about actually proving stress, though.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
39653.76 In reply to 39653.75 
The last bit is the easiest bit (I think). Go to the doctor, get a sick note for "stress".
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
39653.77 In reply to 39653.72 
He could try (through raising a grievance) - but he'd have to be able to prove that the stress is to do with work, and that the teeth work was because of the stress.

First thing to do is get to your his GP and get the stress symptoms documented. The teeth issue is resolved now (gumshield), but if there are any other symptoms (such as high blood pressure) that could be affecting his health he should get signed off until the situation is resolved.

Second he needs to keep a diary of everything that's going on - any messing about, increased work load, covering for others, unpaid hours etc. Anything that is contributing to the stress.

Thirdly, he needs to ask his boss for the money and to sort out all the extra work he's doing that's giving him stress. Assuming the boss does nothing (likely), he needs to put in a grievance requesting a) the money and b) that the working conditions are sorted out. He should also request that the Health & Safety Committee/H&S Officer (depending on what the employer has) is made aware of the situation.

He needs to state in the grievance that he believes that the employer is failing in its duty of care to him by allowing this situation to continue



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  koswix      
39653.78 In reply to 39653.77 
Fourthly - he needs to get himself a kick-ass union rep to prove that the teeth are down to the company, that they have to give him money for that and offer him a compromise agreement for the rest of the (unseen) damage done to his mental health, while also getting the to commit to proper stress reduction program with training and new staff etc. as required to reduce work levels and stress levels to an acceptable level.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.79 In reply to 39653.78 

Cheers for all that. Since he's a member of a union, I'll suggest he speaks to his rep (which he should know to do anyway).


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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.80 In reply to 39653.1 
Are you still doing this?

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.81 In reply to 39653.80 
Never got the job (I prepared for a completely different interview), but I still know a thing or two.

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.82 In reply to 39653.81 
It's a question about working conditions. Not that I'm bothered by them but Sian reckons I should be refusing to work where I am and she's worried I will be bringing nasty stuff back home.

It's one of those houses on those hoarder programs with stuff /everywhere/ and rooms that are blocked off with walls of junk and a floor littered with god knows what. I don't think they ever clean or vacuum as the cobwebs look like simmering out of a horror film but it doesn't seem particularly dirty or smelly, assist from a mummified rat in the kitchen under some stuff.

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.83 In reply to 39653.82 
Both you and your employer have a legal duty to ensure your health, safety and wellbeing at work. That could mean refusing to work there, or being kitted out with appropriate protective gear (and training if to use it if required) and perhaps getting an extra payment to cover sterilising your clothes etc. if it's really that bad.

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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.

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 From:  MrTrent  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.84 In reply to 39653.82 
What are you actually doing there?

MrTrent A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless. In a world of criminals who operate above the law.

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.85 In reply to 39653.83 
I think she'd seen those programs where people go in to shit holes (NJ) wearing full hazmat suits and expecting it to be like that. It's not that bad. She's just being a melodramatic pain in the bum today :@

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  MrTrent     
39653.86 In reply to 39653.84 
I will be fitting a kitchen. Went today to pull down the ceiling and work out where some electrics are going.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.87 In reply to 39653.85 
Don't you fit bedrooms/kitchens? Is that even possible in a horders house?
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.88 In reply to 39653.87 
They're having a bathroom and a kitchen done. There is literally nowhere in the house to store the stuff so it is going to be a nightmare. I think the bathroom is being done first and the new bits will have to go in the kitchen for now. Going to be so much fun with the boxes for the kitchen in there while we try to fit it

I have never seen a place like it. They obviously don't pick anything up off the floor and it all gets trampled on and shredded to pieces. There are boxes and things stacked floor to ceiling everywhere. One bedroom upstairs is impossible to get into, the doorway is completely blocked with stuff chucked in the room and the other is half full with a little room for a bed.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.89 In reply to 39653.88 
Take some photos tomorrow (giggle)
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.90 In reply to 39653.89 
:D Let's hope they don't visit Teh. I won't be back til Monday.

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.91 In reply to 39653.88 
Are they going to let you take away the old bathroom/kitchen? :|

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
39653.92 In reply to 39653.88 
Oh, and I would point blank refuse to work there. Dirty fuckers.

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