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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.6 In reply to 39653.5 
Should I bang my boss?
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.7 In reply to 39653.3 
quote:
the new job has no bearing on the treatment by your current employer
although it may be taken into account if you win your case and the tribunal comes to assess an award, because the potential loss of earnings will be reduced.
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
39653.8 In reply to 39653.6 
Only if you padlock her gates first.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
39653.9 In reply to 39653.7 

That applies only to a loss of earnings award.

 

Any compensation award on other grounds would be unaffected, so if John argued any form of discrimination (for instance) he would receive an amount of compensation for that which is separate to the calculation for loss of earnings (discrimination claims have no upper limit. yay discrimination!)

 

It used to be the case that the reason for leaving had to be entirely because of the constructive dismissal, but the Court of Appeal ruled in Nottinghamshire County Council v Meikle that the constructive dismissal only had to form some part of the reason for leaving - hence why John can jump ship to another employer and still claim constructive dismissal.

 

That's not to say he'd win, of course. Constructive Dismissal is a right bitch to prove.




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  johngti_mk-ii  
 To:  koswix      
39653.10 In reply to 39653.9 
I ask the best questions!

Add THE VETOES to your myspace friends!!! Pretty please :D

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.11 In reply to 39653.1 
Simple one: does an employee have to work a notice period if they want to quit? If so, what are the penalties/outcomes of not doing so?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39653.12 In reply to 39653.11 

In order for the contract of employment to remain enforceable, yes.

 

No obviously the main part of the contract (i.e. going to work) is coming to an end anyway, so you wouldn't lose out much on that front. But there are other parts of the contract which you would lose out on, such as payment for holidays you have accrued but not taken*.

 

Also any benefits which might have a run on period, like private healthcare, or any other perks that remain after leaving.

 

Basically if you don't give notice you have breached your contract and have no right to receive any of the benefits of it**.

 

 

 

(*Anything above the statutory minimum, anyway)
(**except for payment for the work you have done up to the point you bugger off)




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.13 In reply to 39653.12 
Thanks (hug)
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39653.14 In reply to 39653.13 

Also, it's just fucking polite :@

 

 

 

This is actually really helpful, if anyone else can think of random questions I'd really appreciate it. Although I *think* I know the answer to most of these, it's useful to be prompted on a subject so i can check it and see what's changed in the last 18 months or so since I went mental.




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
39653.15 In reply to 39653.14 
Are you still mental?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.16 In reply to 39653.15 
Mostly.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  patch  
 To:  koswix      
39653.17 In reply to 39653.1 
Is there a minimum amount of notice that I have to give my employers if I want to book a day off?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  patch     
39653.18 In reply to 39653.17 

Depends on your contract. Also, your employer doesn't have to give you any specific days off and can in fact tell you when you're off instead.

 

The law only says you have to have a minimum of 5.6 weeks off a year, but not when you get them :(




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  patch  
 To:  koswix      
39653.19 In reply to 39653.18 

5.6 weeks? Really? A lot of places only offer 22 or 23 days. Though it would explain why the NHS have generously given me 27 days holiday this year.

 

Or are you including public holidays? If you are, then the NHS are /really/ generous.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  patch     
39653.20 In reply to 39653.19 

Tends to include bank holidays.

 

I think I get 30 plus bank holidays. But I do work for a university.

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 From:  patch  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.21 In reply to 39653.20 
Some of the people in my office have worked for the NHS for so long that they get 35 days holiday per year. I start getting surprised when they actually show up.
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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  patch     
39653.22 In reply to 39653.19 
As Ant says, the minimums include Bank Holidays because there is no requirement for employers to actually give them off.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  patch     
39653.23 In reply to 39653.21 
It's an odd one at my place. Due to the atmosphere (a good relaxed one where people enjoy work), my boss and my colleague I doubt I'll take them all off....because no one else seems to. When I do take decent amounts off (which I'm entitled to) I feel like I'm taking the piss!
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  patch     
39653.24 In reply to 39653.19 

It's 28 days per year including Bank Holidays.

 

Rest of Europe tends to get 28-ish days + bank holidays :\




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.25 In reply to 39653.23 
Would you turn up to work if they didn't pay you? Because essentially that is what you're doing by not taking your holiday entitlement :C



                                                
                                                
                                                
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