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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.11 In reply to 39653.1 
Simple one: does an employee have to work a notice period if they want to quit? If so, what are the penalties/outcomes of not doing so?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39653.12 In reply to 39653.11 

In order for the contract of employment to remain enforceable, yes.

 

No obviously the main part of the contract (i.e. going to work) is coming to an end anyway, so you wouldn't lose out much on that front. But there are other parts of the contract which you would lose out on, such as payment for holidays you have accrued but not taken*.

 

Also any benefits which might have a run on period, like private healthcare, or any other perks that remain after leaving.

 

Basically if you don't give notice you have breached your contract and have no right to receive any of the benefits of it**.

 

 

 

(*Anything above the statutory minimum, anyway)
(**except for payment for the work you have done up to the point you bugger off)




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.13 In reply to 39653.12 
Thanks (hug)
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
39653.14 In reply to 39653.13 

Also, it's just fucking polite :@

 

 

 

This is actually really helpful, if anyone else can think of random questions I'd really appreciate it. Although I *think* I know the answer to most of these, it's useful to be prompted on a subject so i can check it and see what's changed in the last 18 months or so since I went mental.




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
39653.15 In reply to 39653.14 
Are you still mental?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.16 In reply to 39653.15 
Mostly.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  patch  
 To:  koswix      
39653.17 In reply to 39653.1 
Is there a minimum amount of notice that I have to give my employers if I want to book a day off?
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  patch     
39653.18 In reply to 39653.17 

Depends on your contract. Also, your employer doesn't have to give you any specific days off and can in fact tell you when you're off instead.

 

The law only says you have to have a minimum of 5.6 weeks off a year, but not when you get them :(




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  patch  
 To:  koswix      
39653.19 In reply to 39653.18 

5.6 weeks? Really? A lot of places only offer 22 or 23 days. Though it would explain why the NHS have generously given me 27 days holiday this year.

 

Or are you including public holidays? If you are, then the NHS are /really/ generous.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  patch     
39653.20 In reply to 39653.19 

Tends to include bank holidays.

 

I think I get 30 plus bank holidays. But I do work for a university.

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 From:  patch  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.21 In reply to 39653.20 
Some of the people in my office have worked for the NHS for so long that they get 35 days holiday per year. I start getting surprised when they actually show up.
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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  patch     
39653.22 In reply to 39653.19 
As Ant says, the minimums include Bank Holidays because there is no requirement for employers to actually give them off.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  patch     
39653.23 In reply to 39653.21 
It's an odd one at my place. Due to the atmosphere (a good relaxed one where people enjoy work), my boss and my colleague I doubt I'll take them all off....because no one else seems to. When I do take decent amounts off (which I'm entitled to) I feel like I'm taking the piss!
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  patch     
39653.24 In reply to 39653.19 

It's 28 days per year including Bank Holidays.

 

Rest of Europe tends to get 28-ish days + bank holidays :\




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.25 In reply to 39653.23 
Would you turn up to work if they didn't pay you? Because essentially that is what you're doing by not taking your holiday entitlement :C



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
39653.26 In reply to 39653.25 
I know it's exactly that, and I should take more but I'm sure you can understand that is does feel difficult when you're the only one who seems to be going on holiday! I could do with working out what I have left.
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
39653.27 In reply to 39653.26 

Not your fault if your colleagues are morons!

 

Great idea that for employers, actually, give great holiday allowances and then make sure people feel so embarrassed that they never actually take them.

 

Incidentally, if you or your colleagues are taking less than 28 days a year, and then you have some big chemically accident and fatigue is attributed as part of the cause... your employer's in the shit.




                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  koswix      
39653.28 In reply to 39653.27 
Are there any laws concerning workmen doing noisy work (drilling/banging/etc) elsewhere in the building creating an unsuitable environment?

(i.e. is an employer allowed to do that during working hours, or is there any requirement that it be limited to before/after.)
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39653.29 In reply to 39653.28 
Good question. We've had workmen in the whole department for probably close to 9 months. And a lot of work is going on in the room above.
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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
39653.30 In reply to 39653.28 

Your workplace has to be safe and free from unnecessary hazards.

 

If the workmen are causing your work place to be unsafe, or creating unnecessary hazards, then you could make them stop.

 

For instance, if the noise created by them banging their tools (Y,J) was sufficient to cause damage to your hearing, your employer might choose to issue you with ear defenders. Obviously they would then also need to make necessary adjustments to the fire alarm so that it provides suitable visual cues (big, spinny, flashy red lights would be sufficient) so that in the event of a fire, perhaps caused by a workman accidentally drilling through a water pipe and causing it to leak on a damaged power cable, you don't just sit at your desk until you're burnt to a crisp.

 

As long as they are not adversely affecting your health, they can pretty much do what they want.




                                                
                                                
                                                
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