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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 12:16
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The level design is nice. The price being standard un-alterable running speed and jumping height (and no levitation). I'm starting to hit the edges of this game. It's very very broad (compared to Oblivion) but incredibly shallow. The questlines are very trivial and short, if fairly well constructed. Morrowind had the breadth and the depth. But I guess making a game like that these days is impossible. It's just more intensive when textures and models are high res and dialogue must be spoken. This is the best we get. It's a very good game, even stunning in places. But it's very firmly an action-RPG rather than... whatever Morrowind is. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 12:17
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It's not supposed to be scary, it's supposed to be cute. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 12:24
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If you're aiming for scary it isn't :-D

If you're aiming for cute, well, you suceeded in creepy :-D

Morrowind didn't do it for me I'm afraid. Other than the water it was graphically dull.. no, depressing is a better way to put it.

It's possible I might go back and play it now and enjoy it more I suppose.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 12:34
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Morrowind is a goddamn masterpiece. Graphics whore. (yeah it's very very brown) , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 12:36
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It's the style, not the colours.

'Tis fucking depressing.

I agree about Skyrim btw but I think it's a massive step in the right direction.

Actually, thinking about it, it reminds me of Elite with mountains.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 12:55
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Mount & Blade is more Elite with mountains. Actually in terms of quality of design, Skyrim is as good as Morrowind (and, of course, way better than Oblivion). Definitely a step in the right direction from Oblivion, aye. Just wish it was a bit more fleshed out. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 12:59
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For some reason I hated Oblivion. Stupid Levelling system non withstanding it was just balls.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 13:00
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It was indeed balls. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	patch	22 Nov 2011 13:14
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Speaking of water, I was wandering around the northern area among the icebergs yesterday. Sometimes, I hit a bug where the water is completely clear, and standing on the bottom of the sea looking up at the icebergs floating in what looked like the sky made me want a game like that.

Then I'd start drowning and have to swim for the surface as quickly as possible.

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 13:26
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	316 of 773

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But why? I can never quite put my finger on why it was a load of old horse apples. I even tried it with Obsuro's Total Mod (I think it was called) Surface wise, it was the same as Skyrim right down to having a shite UI.

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 13:27
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I had a bug early on that made a whole section of lake disapear - it was stll there but you couldn't see it, just the bottom, was rather bizarre.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 14:01
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Oblivion's UI was amazing compared to Skyrim's :') Oblivion was shit because it was badly designed. Nothing (well, very little) was interesting or intriguing or mysterious and the whole thing looked like a jumbled mess. Nothing had any coherence with anything else. Didn't look like stuff which had arisen from a real culture, looked like stuff that had been badly designed. Morrowind was broad and deep and well designed. Oblivion was narrow and shallow and poorly designed. Skyrim is broad and shallow and well designed. Two out of three is pretty good. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	MrTrent	22 Nov 2011 17:28
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I am now Thane of every city in Skyrim. Bow before me, peasants. MrTrent A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless. In a world of criminals who operate above the law.

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From:	patch	22 Nov 2011 17:53
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I've not gotten round to selling most of my loot yet, so I couldn't even start to afford a house in every city. The one in Solitude was expensive enough.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Nov 2011 17:56
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Selling loot is such immense hassle in this game. I've not sold anything since about level 5. So I have a chest in my house with roughly infinity things in it. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	MrTrent	22 Nov 2011 18:00
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The one in Solitude was by far the most expensive. The others don't cost any where near as much. Although all cities can make you Thane, you can't get a house in each city, only Solitude, Windhelm, Whiterun, Riften and Markath. You get a housecarl in each of those though, which is nice. I never use companions myself, as my badass orc doesn't need them, so i leave them all at their relevant houses, safe in the knowledge that they're gaurding the place and keeping a fire lit so it's nice and warm for whenever i decide to pop in. MrTrent A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless. In a world of criminals who operate above the law.

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From:	MrTrent	22 Nov 2011 18:07
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Selling loot is indeed a pain in the arse. I liked Oblivion's system of each vendor being able to spend a maximum amount on each item, but unlimited funds. This system of only having a set pool of gold to spend is fucking annoying. I'm not really bothered now as i've bought and fully upgraded all available houses, but when i was actively trying to raise funds i had to fast travel round 2 or somethimes 3 cities to be able to sell all my loot from my last excursion. MrTrent A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless. In a world of criminals who operate above the law.

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From:	Dave!!	22 Nov 2011 22:13
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Oblivion had a really shit levelling system (although mods like Oblivion XP did help to fix this). It also had a distinct feel of being a relatively sparse and mass-generated world with loads of relatively samey dungeons plastered around to fill it up. That being so, I personally really enjoyed Oblivion, despite its faults. And Xen is right that Oblivion did have a much better UI than Skyrim. ---

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From:	Dave!!	22 Nov 2011 22:15
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It's much more realistic though. I've used mods for Oblivion which added the same ability. Does make you have to plan how you sell stuff, ie to make sure that you don't sell weapons to a general trader, but to the smithy instead so that the general trader has enough gold left for your other junk. ---

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From:	arq (ARQUETURUS)	22 Nov 2011 22:18
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This is fairly easy if you're a smith, you can buy all the crafting gear which pads out the Blacksmiths purse then sell Magic Weapons and Armor to them.

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