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 From:  Mikee  
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38778.53 
It's tempting to create a website with pictures of every single face I can find of people looting from any internet video I can find....
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 From:  Mouse  
 To:  Mikee     
38778.54 In reply to 38778.53 
With the EXIF coordinates attached to a map. Do it.

There is this

Roses are bollocks, Violets are crud, I hate bloody flowers, And much prefer mud.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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38778.55 
Heh, an interesting thing on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-to-get-the-Army-in-to-sort-this-mess-out/234774236562030

People want the army to come and sort things out.

Unsure how I feel about that ... assuming we actually have an army here (and they're not all over in Afghanistan and Iraq) ... would it help?

Can an army person arrest/detain people they've caught (guess it might count as a citizen's arrest; does that even exist or is it just something that happens on TV shows? :S )

Possibly they're more trained for riot-like situations - at least compared to normal police, dunno about riot police (assuming riot police are actually trained and not just normal people given a stick and sheet of plastic and a helmet?).

Would rioters have more respect for / fear of someone in an army uniform compared to a police officer?

*shrug*
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)  
 To:  Mouse     
38778.56 In reply to 38778.54 
Thanks for that. I'm off to London tomorrow for work, so I'll use it to tell if my hotel's likely to catch fire (it's about a mile south of the bit of Hackney where it kicked off today).

Kenny
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 From:  Mouse  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
38778.57 In reply to 38778.56 
You're welcome. Stay safe lad.

Roses are bollocks, Violets are crud, I hate bloody flowers, And much prefer mud.
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38778.58 In reply to 38778.55 

Pete - I'd say the Army create more of an impression than the Police, especially if they start rolling in in their own vehicles. I would say that they are also slightly less likely to be nice and patient, which might not necessarily be a bad thing.

 

On a side note, Ealing Broadway kicking off now too. Hanger Lane seems still quiet for now.

[...Insert Brain Here...]
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)     
38778.59 In reply to 38778.58 
You guys should all go out and do a live report for us.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38778.60 In reply to 38778.59 
All quiet in Rocester.
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)     
38778.61 In reply to 38778.56 
If need be, come stay with us in Hanger Lane. Still here and fine. For now...
[...Insert Brain Here...]
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38778.62 In reply to 38778.60 
(hug) good cause I'd hate to have to come hurt someone!
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38778.63 In reply to 38778.62 
I could maybe go and loot myself a cow.
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 From:  Voltane  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38778.64 In reply to 38778.59 

Well earlier the police chased around 60 youths out of the area.
Tomorrow the inquest into Mr Duggan's death starts at the local Coroners' office; so i'm sure they'll be some justifiably angry people around as well as the looting twats.


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)     
38778.65 In reply to 38778.58 
What I'm wondering is if they'd only create more of an impression to a sane person - would a crazed mob-mentalised person see them as different?

I guess that's not something we can answer without either being one or sending in the army and finding out.

Not sure on the vehicles front - if I saw an army tank roll around the corner, I'd think "well he's not allowed to shoot at me, and if I go over there then he can't follow" - but then again looters probably aren't thinking straight so maybe it would help.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38778.66 In reply to 38778.63 
That will be helpful because it seems like the end of the world is coming and you will need the milk and beef eventually!
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Mikee     
38778.67 In reply to 38778.53 
quote:
It's tempting to create a website with pictures of every single face I can find of people looting from any internet video I can find....

Echelon can probably do that much quicker than you. :)



Somewhere today I saw mention of an Android/iPhone app that can do facial recognition, then searches for similar photos, works out who the person is (i.e. using tagged photos on social networks), then once it has a name it searches those people-finder sites to find out actual information about them.

Interesting from a technology perspective, but scary from a privacy perspective.

Annoyingly I can't find the link for it. :(
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38778.68 In reply to 38778.65 
I'm pretty sure it would be illegal. And with good reason: if they're not authorised to use force then you're just putting them in a very dangerous situation for which they have neither the training nor equipment. If they are authorised to use force then you've just declared war on your own people.

Tanks rolling down a high street would probably do more damage than looters.
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 From:  Gobfounded (YVE)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38778.69 In reply to 38778.60 
Just as quiet here, in rural co Durham. I think all the local thugs arre trying to find out where London is.



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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Gobfounded (YVE)     
38778.70 In reply to 38778.69 
No doubt they're looking for Luton.
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 From:  Mikee  
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38778.71 
For fucks sake, only a matter of time until they kill someone innocent.
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 From:  steve  
 To:  Mikee     
38778.72 In reply to 38778.71 
I'm surprised, with all the flats-above-shops, that there's been no reports of someone being badly injured or killed already.

I do hope this all stops soon, it doesn't seem to be. I've been arguing with people all day who've been saying that these people are trying to be heard and make a point, which I'd be happy to accept if 99% of these kids didn't appear to be purely thinking "Yay! Fire! Televisions!". That's why I worry this'll will spread further.

I live above a sex shop, full of pornography, I'm fucked if the the youths in Bournemouth start rioting! :(

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