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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 22:53 
 To:  Manthorp      170 of 298 
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You only don't want them because you weren't raised with them.

 

You don't want a tool for killing, but sales of baseball bats on Amazon are up over 4000%. It doesn't take a gun to kill or hurt someone. It only takes the intention to do that.

 

And I don't know about you, but I can guess what the buyers of those bats were going to do.

 

Guns serve another purpose other than killing as well. They serve as a deterrent.



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 From:  Manthorp   9 Aug 2011 23:03 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      171 of 298 
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You only don't want them because you weren't raised with them.


You only want them because you were. That's why I distinguished between ideology and morally informed choice. I have no right or desire to tell you that America should disarm. But neither do I think that you or anybody else has a right to tell me that the British ought to own guns.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 23:10 
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That sums it up well. We just don't want them. We fell safer and better without. Whether we actually are who knows, but what we feel counts a lot.
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 From:  JonCooper   9 Aug 2011 23:11 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      173 of 298 
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You only don't want them because you weren't raised with them.


but we were, well anyone of mine or manny's age ~ the major parts of laws banning handgun ownership etc were made up in/after 1987
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 23:16 
 To:  JonCooper      174 of 298 
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Wow I wasn't aware of that. It has to be differences in culture. They'd (being the governmnet) would never get away with that here. And I'm amazed after finding that out that there arent gangs who have them!


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 From:  JonCooper   9 Aug 2011 23:20 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      175 of 298 
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tbh we don't seem to need/want them much - I know of one handgun, and that has been stored in oil for over 50 years, though there are any amount of shotguns about (I live in a fairly rural area)
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   9 Aug 2011 23:30 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      176 of 298 
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If looters are constantly turned away from being able to loot, they'll eventually get bored, but every time they're successful it empowers them to keep going, and potentially get do more severe things.

I think that shooting them in the kneecaps might be a more effective deterrent.

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   9 Aug 2011 23:31 
 To:  JonCooper      177 of 298 
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quote: JonCooper
stores have insurance, tbh I'd rather Rumbelows lost a few TVs than anyone get shot

And I'm sure that you won't complain when your insurance premiums go up to compensate.

Oh, did you think that the insurance companies are in it for the benefit of the greater good?

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   9 Aug 2011 23:33 
 To:  JonCooper      178 of 298 
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quote: JonCooper
there are any amount of shotguns about (I live in a fairly rural area)

And they're an integral part of the marriage ceremony! :D

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 From:  JonCooper   9 Aug 2011 23:33 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      179 of 298 
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my insurance goes up whatever happens

I don't believe shooting people is the answer to any issue / problem (unless they shoot first)
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 From:  Mouse   9 Aug 2011 23:39 
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Its fairly common to have a riot exclusion in retail insurance stuff. Some will be insured, most I fear won't.

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 From:  Mikee   9 Aug 2011 23:43 
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"Understanding why this happened is different to justifying it" on sky news - Good point, that.
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 From:  Manthorp   9 Aug 2011 23:44 
 To:  Mouse      182 of 298 
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Papers are reporting that Met must legally pay compensation from reserves. It'll still come from us eventually, of course, but the route is different.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  Mouse   9 Aug 2011 23:57 
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That's good.

 

Mikee: I told Skynews to say that, as per my post earlier in this thread.


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 From:  Mikee   10 Aug 2011 00:00 
 To:  Mouse      184 of 298 
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Sky news told me to tell you there's been sunshine across the UK today but it's a very different story tomorrow- quite wet and very windy.

 

Some very heavy bursts of rain, temperatures down to 9-14. There will be a gusty wind developing.

 

That's it from me, bye for now.
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 From:  Mouse   10 Aug 2011 00:01 
 To:  Mikee      185 of 298 
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Tell Skynews to go suck a bag of dicks.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   10 Aug 2011 00:04 
 To:  Mikee      186 of 298 
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Better not be over Birmingham
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 From:  Mikee   10 Aug 2011 00:05 
 To:  Mouse      187 of 298 
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http://www.okmagazine.com/2011/08/hulk-hogan-talks-london-riots-on-bbc-radio-ill-body-slam-the-youth/
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 From:  Mouse   10 Aug 2011 00:08 
 To:  Mikee      188 of 298 
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That's the spirit Hulk Hogan

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   10 Aug 2011 01:11 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      189 of 298 
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Again with good light/bad light! Who cares? I think burning down other peoples' shit shows them in a pretty bad light to start with but, again, that's not the point.

Also what Milko said.
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