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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:07 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      141 of 298 
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I dunno, I'd rather have a little control instead of living in fear.

You get a group of 10-20 friends armed to the ass and you'd have to really want that fucking TV.


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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   9 Aug 2011 20:11 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      142 of 298 
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If people had guns like you guys do then so would the rioters.

Kinda ironic, given how it all started.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 20:13 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      143 of 298 
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To be honest I have no idea how to react to all this apart from being embarrassed really.
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 From:  Kriv   9 Aug 2011 20:35 
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Oooh apparently kicking off up the road. I can smell burning.

 

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 20:36 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      145 of 298 
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You don't need guns, you just need a bunch of angry Turks.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:45 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      146 of 298 
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Can't watch that at work. What do they do, beat them with legs?

And what difference does using a pipe, club, knife as opposed to a gun? The intent to hurt or kill someone doesn't go away just because you don't have a gun!


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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 20:48 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      147 of 298 
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Very true, but thankfully the available "weapons" aren't as lethal.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:50 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      148 of 298 
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Fire and cars kill people! I know because I saw it in a video game once!


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 From:  patch   9 Aug 2011 20:52 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      149 of 298 
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Because pipes and clubs and knives aren't as easy to use as a gun. You have to get up close to use them. You have to really mean it.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:53 
 To:  patch      150 of 298 
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haha that made me laugh.

I was once hit in the face with a pipe. I'm sure he meant it as well.


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 20:54 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      151 of 298 
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Nope, just chase after them shouting.

One guy had a pipe/stick/whatever, but wasn't seen to use it.

I think this describes it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8691761/London-riots-residents-fight-back.html
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:56 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      152 of 298 
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Now just picture that scene but instead of a group of people make it a fine red dot following each of the rioters down the street.


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 20:57 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      153 of 298 
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You're still alive though.

A gun shot to the face could easily have been a different story. :/



There's been one confirmed fatality in all this - a guy who got shot.

Are you saying if he had a gun he wouldn't have been shot? And that if everyone had guns there would be less injured people?
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:59 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      154 of 298 
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No, but I am saying that the store owners could put an end to it much faster. Possibly with more fatalities, possibly with rioters getting smart very fast.


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 From:  patch   9 Aug 2011 21:04 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      155 of 298 
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Yay! Dead people! The perfect way to end anything.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 21:05 
 To:  patch      156 of 298 
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They don't have to die. How can you die when you are home minding your business?


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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 21:07 
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 From:  patch   9 Aug 2011 21:07 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      158 of 298 
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True, the availability of guns certainly calmed down those tensions in LA in 1992.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 21:09 
 To:  patch      159 of 298 
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This doesn't look too out of balance to me. More like natural selection.


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 From:  patch   9 Aug 2011 21:13 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      160 of 298 
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that.
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