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 From:  milko   9 Aug 2011 18:04 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      131 of 298 
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I don't know if you're looking deep enough into what Xen's saying. How do you think they got to be like that, and why? (and what can be done about it). Again, it's not to justify/excuse anything, it's to try and understand so that maybe things can be changed. Knee-jerk lock 'em all up type reactions are the sort of thing people say but doesn't that lead down a road to human rights on a par with China?

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 From:  steve   9 Aug 2011 18:09 
 To:  koswix      132 of 298 
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My business insurance covers all expensive things. The ratties will not like being in their travel-house as it is about the size of them (it's for going to the vet). I'm just going to keep an eye on things and come back home not too late, I have friends within a few minutes walk where I can crash if things do happen. I really don't think they will though, Bournemouth is very placid.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 18:12 
 To:  steve      133 of 298 
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Everything I've seen suggests the stuff outside London areas has been squashed before it's really begun.

Guess it depends if you have lots of poor estranged people who hate the cops, or just a bunch of kids who want to say they were part of something.
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 From:  steve   9 Aug 2011 18:17 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      134 of 298 
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Bournemouth itself is full of young people but everybody is very nice, the seaside makes everybody happy. There are some really rough estates around it though, some that the buses don't go to anymore and the royal mail won't deliver too - but even those aren't very bad. Although M&S in Boscombe (little-part-of-Bournemouth) has been smash-er-ed.

The job centre in Southampton was nearly set on fire today!

I need to go on a big long walk to collect my car now, as I went to an impromptu party at the weekend had to leave my car there, fail. I will witter excitedly/terrified later if shit goes down :Y
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 From:  steve   9 Aug 2011 18:18 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      135 of 298 
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Ah, our police are now on Twitter dispelling rumours. That is good!
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 18:35 
 To:  steve      136 of 298 
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It must be nice to have semi-competent police. :S
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 From:  spinning_plates   9 Aug 2011 18:48 
 To:  koswix      137 of 298 
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Riots don't just happen for a laugh, people have to be completely fucking mental about something to start rioting like this,.and i reckon ken is a lot.closer to the reasons why than anyone else I've seen on the news talking about it.


What the fuck do I know, but I would tend to agree with your assessment there.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 19:32 
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Shit is on fire in Manchester. FUCKING CUNTS.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:01 
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What in tarnations is going on over there people? Get your fucking guns out and put a stop to this nonsense!


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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 20:04 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      140 of 298 
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Still not the answer. If people had guns like you guys do then so would the rioters. It'd be a blood bath on both sides.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:07 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      141 of 298 
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I dunno, I'd rather have a little control instead of living in fear.

You get a group of 10-20 friends armed to the ass and you'd have to really want that fucking TV.


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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   9 Aug 2011 20:11 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      142 of 298 
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If people had guns like you guys do then so would the rioters.

Kinda ironic, given how it all started.

bastard by name, bastard by nature
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 20:13 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      143 of 298 
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To be honest I have no idea how to react to all this apart from being embarrassed really.
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 From:  Kriv   9 Aug 2011 20:35 
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Oooh apparently kicking off up the road. I can smell burning.

 

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   9 Aug 2011 20:36 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      145 of 298 
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You don't need guns, you just need a bunch of angry Turks.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:45 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      146 of 298 
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Can't watch that at work. What do they do, beat them with legs?

And what difference does using a pipe, club, knife as opposed to a gun? The intent to hurt or kill someone doesn't go away just because you don't have a gun!


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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   9 Aug 2011 20:48 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      147 of 298 
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Very true, but thankfully the available "weapons" aren't as lethal.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:50 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      148 of 298 
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Fire and cars kill people! I know because I saw it in a video game once!


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 From:  patch   9 Aug 2011 20:52 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      149 of 298 
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Because pipes and clubs and knives aren't as easy to use as a gun. You have to get up close to use them. You have to really mean it.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   9 Aug 2011 20:53 
 To:  patch      150 of 298 
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haha that made me laugh.

I was once hit in the face with a pipe. I'm sure he meant it as well.


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