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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   
 To:  Matt     
38437.21 In reply to 38437.20 
I would take a hoverboard!


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 From:  PNCOOL  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      
38437.22 In reply to 38437.1 
You can keep your cheaper-than-UK fuel. My car would spit the fuel back out if I tried to run it on 93 RON unleaded. I don't even think it would let me open the fuel cap if it knew I was trying to put 87 RON fuel into it.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   
 To:  PNCOOL     
38437.23 In reply to 38437.22 
87 is the only thing we can afford!


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 From:  koswix  
 To:  PNCOOL     
38437.24 In reply to 38437.22 

That's actually 91 RON and 97-ish RON. The figures are displayed in AKI, apparently.

 

What car do you drive? Is it FAST?



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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  PNCOOL     
38437.25 In reply to 38437.22 
Although Kos has already pointed out the AKI thing, remember that RON isn't a measure of fuel quality. Unless your car is going to make use of it, there's just no point.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
38437.26 In reply to 38437.25 
Genuine question, how does one car make better use of higher RON fuel than another?
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
38437.27 In reply to 38437.25 

Higher than what your engine is meant for is no benefit, but lower can damage the engine.

 

It totally is a measure of quality if you would consider that fuel that makes your engine break as bad quality fuel :C



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 From:  koswix  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38437.28 In reply to 38437.26 

Higher RON can withstand higher pressure (turbo chargered cars, for instance) before auto igniting.

 

Some clever cars and bikes can adjust engine timing to suit the RON of the fuel, too :O

 

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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38437.29 In reply to 38437.26 

Rapid summary: RON is a measure of 'explosiveness' and / or octane. Contrary to VERY popular belief, high octane fuel is LESS explosive than low octane fuel. What this does is allow the fuel to be more compressed without spontaneous ignition, meaning when it's deliberately ignited by the spark plug (At JUST the right moment) the energy created is much more.

 

Essentially, high performance cars have high compression engines. Most cars, well, don't.

 

Running high octane fuel in a normal car will make zero difference, whatsoever*. Running normal fuel in a high compression engine will do one of the following:

 

-Cause pre detonation, where the fuel explodes prior to the spark plug lighting. This is pretty bad for the engine and obviously kills performance

 

-The ECU will detect the above and back the timing off. Engine will be fine but performance suffers heavily

 

*Regardless of what someone will no doubt say, any differences in performance are either because the car is specced for high octane fuel OR the high octane fuel happens to have better detergents in it which clean the engine.

 

Conclusion: Unless your car really is high performance / high compression, don't waste your money.

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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  koswix     
38437.30 In reply to 38437.28 
Haha, you wikipediad AND beat me to the punch. Ah well, my explanation was off the top of my head because I know this shit!
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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  koswix     
38437.31 In reply to 38437.27 
But that's an idiotic measure of "quality", isn't it?
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
38437.32 In reply to 38437.29 
So to sum things up I shouldn't put high RON petrol in my diesel car (giggle)
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 From:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38437.33 In reply to 38437.32 
Well, I wasn't addressing you personally, but no, I wouldn't.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
38437.34 In reply to 38437.33 
Since you know about these things. Should there be a noticeable difference in using higher RON fuel in a pretty standard 50cc moped?
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   
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38437.35 In reply to 38437.34 
If the weather would ever get nice I'd get my girl out and not cry so much about gas prices!


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  JonCooper     
38437.36 In reply to 38437.6 
:-(( :-(( :-((

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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Monsoir (PILOTDAN)     
38437.37 In reply to 38437.30 
There is knowledge that you know, and there is knowledge that you know where to look to find.


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 From:  koswix  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38437.38 In reply to 38437.32 
Now I /know/ that's a bad idea.


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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  koswix     
38437.39 In reply to 38437.15 

Hey, wait a minute! I drive a Land Rover(at least part time)! It is a 1989 and I wouldn't say that it is a paragon of British fuel economy...

 

Wish we had Tdi 5s here.


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  fixrman     
38437.40 In reply to 38437.39 
Uh... it's twenty years old?

No car from 1989 is going to be great on fuel economy, whatever country it was made in.

Especially not a Land Rover - which was designed to rove land, not to save fuel!
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