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 From:  Matt   26 Apr 2011 22:29 
 To:  koswix       30 of 157 
38415.30 In reply to 38415.24 
I don't know what is involved, I just know it costs quite a bit if you fail compliance. According to the Evolve Online site, it's €5 per compromised account and €100,000 fine per incident.

So that's at least €100,015 fine of the people in this thread I know have PSN accounts.

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 From:  patch   26 Apr 2011 22:35 
 To:  koswix       31 of 157 
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Self-certification (wrong term, but I can't think of the right one at the moment) can only be done by smaller companies who handle a smaller number of transactions every year. Large companies have to be audited by a certified QSA.

 

The only problem is that the actual requirements in PCI DSS are a bit vague in places, and what you need to do to achieve compliance depends on the interpretation of the QSA. Sony's lawyers will just end up saying that they were compliant so long as you squint at it from the right angle.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   26 Apr 2011 23:27 
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Could someone explain how (in actual use) this keepass thing works? I don't really care much about security, but if it's a thing that can remember and fill in my password/s for me, then I'm interested.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   27 Apr 2011 00:19 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      33 of 157 
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That's what LastPass does. Haven't used Keypass for a long time and I can't remember how it works.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   27 Apr 2011 01:09 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      34 of 157 
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Ok, which is BETTER?
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 From:  koswix    27 Apr 2011 01:11 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      35 of 157 
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Lastpass want you to pay to use their Android app :(

GIVE ME EYERON OR! :@ msg:38140.1
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   27 Apr 2011 01:11 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      36 of 157 
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I love lastpass because it is available on all my browsers, work, home, where ever. Of course it's BETTER because I'm using it! I wouldn't use the inferior product man!
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   27 Apr 2011 01:11 
 To:  koswix       37 of 157 
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Well that's fine since I don't have an Android.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   27 Apr 2011 01:12 
 To:  koswix       38 of 157 
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Yeah, I didn't like that. But it's not that expensive is it?
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 From:  koswix    27 Apr 2011 02:09 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      39 of 157 
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More expensive than a packet of post-it notes :C

GIVE ME EYERON OR! :@ msg:38140.1
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   27 Apr 2011 02:14 
 To:  koswix       40 of 157 
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That's an odd thing to compare it too!
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 From:  JonCooper   27 Apr 2011 06:26 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      41 of 157 
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I think the implication is that a packet of post-it notes is his alternative password remembering system
Jon
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   27 Apr 2011 07:08 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      42 of 157 
38415.42 In reply to 38415.5 
Surely sensitive data like passwords and password hints should be stored in MD5 hash format? So stealing that data becomes useless (unless one has a shitlol amount of pooter power to break the hash).

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   27 Apr 2011 07:12 
 To:  koswix       43 of 157 
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You think you have it bad Mr Wix? Some poor bastards have had their money eaten! :O

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 From:  Mouse   27 Apr 2011 07:55 
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77 million PSN users worldwide. Dunno, a 1/4 of them in Europe? Someone do the maths. That's a substantial fine.

Roses are bollocks, Violets are crud, I hate bloody flowers, And much prefer mud.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Apr 2011 08:09 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      45 of 157 
38415.45 In reply to 38415.42 
I can't tell if you're trolling or not. :/

Just using MD5 is only a step above plain text. It's not recommended. Use a more powerful algorithm, along with secret and per-user salts.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   27 Apr 2011 08:32 
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Definitely big news, it was the front page headline on the Metro!
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 From:  patch   27 Apr 2011 08:47 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      47 of 157 
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Keepass. It keeps everything in an encrypted file on your computer, so at least they're not on someone else's server.
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   27 Apr 2011 09:35 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      48 of 157 
38415.48 In reply to 38415.45 
No, I wasn't trolling, and the principle still stands: there are readily amenable methods to secure sensitive data held within a database, MD5 (+salt) is only one example. It souldn't be beyond the wit of Sony to have done so.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Apr 2011 09:49 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      49 of 157 
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You didn't read the whole thread then. :P
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