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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	5 Aug 2012 23:22
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	3675 of 3934

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Only because you've become accustomed to a very narrow definition of "game" and aren't thinking clearly. quote: game noun 1 an amusement or pastime. 2 the equipment used for this If you treat it as such, Blender can be a game - just like balancing a broom on your toes or pulling faces at a child or throwing a frisbee for the dog - they're all games. `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Oscarvarium (OZGUR)	6 Aug 2012 01:06
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	3676 of 3934

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Ah, but the combination of building stuff and fighting shit is something Minecraft does so, so well. I'm mostly bored of vanilla peaceful right now (although I'm currently playing with the Technic/Tekkit mod pack on peaceful) but survival multiplayer is very appealing, which is why I want Teh server updated. :x Also, I can't think of a signature, any ideas?

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 01:14
To:	Oscarvarium (OZGUR)	3677 of 3934

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I'm with Ken on this. The combat in Minecraft is so fucking appalling that it's not the basis of any good combination of anything. I like the pressure of survival but I do not think that the pressure is at all well-presented. Wurm is far better in that regard. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	6 Aug 2012 01:18
To:	Oscarvarium (OZGUR)	3678 of 3934

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(He's just bitter for constantly being killed by slimes.) `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 01:29
To:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	3679 of 3934

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If I were, that'd be fine. I'm bitter because a) none of the enemies are a particularly potent threat and after you have armour, weapons and torches (i.e. 30 minutes into a game if you know what you're doing) they become no threat whatsoever and b) the combat is so painfully fucking clunky. If there was more variety in the toughness of the enemies - if there were sort of boss monsters you had to kinda team up to take down (employing some actual tactics and shit) then that would be fine. Or if the combat felt fun and fluid and visceral and tactile and responsive then that would be fun too (even if the enemies remained easy, it'd be fun to just hack your way through them out in the wilds). The problem is that the combat is neither challenging nor (in and of itself) enjoyable. It's not really a pressure (after those first 30 mins or so), it's just a constant fucking annoyance. There's no sense of threat to the enemies, they do not feel like a challenge to overcome, they just serve to irritate. The building side is very well realised and the combat doesn't come anywhere near matching it and feels entirely out of place. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	6 Aug 2012 01:40
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3680 of 3934

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What it was was people like you making a game to build shit and then asking your friends if they'd like to help. And then our friends (Peter) add a bunch of stupid shit in.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 01:43
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	3681 of 3934

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:D Aye. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	6 Aug 2012 02:03
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3682 of 3934

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You're playing it wrong. Just because you can shoot straight down into a cave and come up with a hoard of iron and diamonds before the second night doesn't mean you should do that. If mobs aren't a big enough threat then don't wear armour, and don't use swords or bows. If you want tactics and teamwork then get one of the mods for that and/or do PvP. Not that I disagree that there shouldn't be tougher mobs, and dungeons with a single spawner are far too easy, but on the whole the game is still way better than Morrowind AND has better music too. `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 02:05
To:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	3683 of 3934

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I knew you'd say that. And it's /ridiculous/. The game is good so long as you... don't play it? I want to go and get the best materials. I want to then make the best weapons and armour. I want a challenge after I do so. I don't want to use mods. You're defending bad design. I'm going to pretend you didn't say that about Morrowind otherwise I'm honour-bound to literally execute you. Legally of course, I have a writ. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	6 Aug 2012 02:16
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3684 of 3934

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I'm not defending bad design, it's just incomplete is all, because Notch/Jeb/etc has to waste so much time adding different coloured wood for people like you instead of adding trolls and yetis and snakes and eagles and tigers and bears and wraiths and sharks and WTF did Firefox just crash for when it wasn't even doing anything!? :@ Anyway, I need to sleep. `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 02:25
To:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	3685 of 3934

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They don't need more (though that would be good too). They need to make combat not fucking dreadful. Badly designed, motherfucker. <executes pb> , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	6 Aug 2012 02:40
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3686 of 3934

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`-bash: pb: command not found` `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 03:01
To:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	3687 of 3934

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:'S `~bash: sudo apt-get install pb` , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	6 Aug 2012 03:06
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3688 of 3934

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~Pi: Insufficient memory to run pb

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 03:06
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	3689 of 3934

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(giggle) , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	6 Aug 2012 03:07
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3690 of 3934

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Looks like I need to upgrade!

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 03:16
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	3691 of 3934

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Or do less intensive shit :Y Don't put XBMC on it, that's boring. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	6 Aug 2012 03:27
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3692 of 3934

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That's only on one SD card. I have two more that have other OS's on it!

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From:	Oscarvarium (OZGUR)	6 Aug 2012 03:31
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	3693 of 3934

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You want more challenge? Let's try this. Yes it's a mod but it's nicely subtle and purposeful, not just adding stuff for the sake of it. I agree that the combat is not deep or interesting enough to carry a combat-focused game, but at the same time playing on peaceful has begun to feel sort of meaningless to me. Also, I can't think of a signature, any ideas?

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	6 Aug 2012 04:21
To:	Oscarvarium (OZGUR)	3694 of 3934

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Fuck mods. And aye, understand that. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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