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 From:  patch  
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38140.3458 In reply to 38140.3457 
Not really. We'd all be so screwed I'd be in the Guinness Book of Records.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
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38140.3459 In reply to 38140.3454 
3% through!!
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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Have you seen any server plugins relating to reminding you how long you've been playing for?

So like players can do a /dailylimit 120 and then after a total of two hours in any 24 hour period it starts telling you to get off and do other stuff?
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
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38140.3461 In reply to 38140.3460 
Ha, no, but that is a good one. "Do some fucking work"
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
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38140.3463 In reply to 38140.3462 
Wow, that's a speedy process isn't it! All for what? A few new monsters and a higher sky? Whoop whoop!


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.3464 In reply to 38140.3463 
It's not affecting the monsters, and it's more than just adding height.

It's a complete change of how the data is stored, which makes it more efficient and more flexible for mod authors.

It shouldn't take as long as it is, but I guess that's a combination of:
1a) Minecraft storing each region (512x512 block areas) in individual files;
1b) Us lot having explored and built things across relatively vast area;
1c) the server being Windows, which isn't great at handling large numbers of files;
2) Mojang not bothering to performance test the process on non-small worlds, and thus putting little/no effort into optimising the code once it was completed.


(Mostly I suspect it's down to reason 2 there.)
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38140.3465 In reply to 38140.3464 
I was being a bit facetious there Pete. But yeah I agree it's probably #2 mostly. It's a fun game but I don't think I understand why it's written in Java.


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.3466 In reply to 38140.3465 
Simple: because Notch knew Java.

And that's not really the problem - Java is perfectly capable of being fast enough.

Assuming the in-game converter uses the same code as the standalone tool, which I just had a quick look at, then the slowness probably comes from a bunch of debugging functions left turned on, (and using an exponentially slow method of concatenating strings for some of them).

*shrug* Oh well.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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Yup. Oh well. Better than I can do.


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 From:  Mouse  
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38140.3469 In reply to 38140.3468 
Can we have a hangout while it's processing with you slowly unwinding a piece of ribbon ad if it's a progress bar?

Roses are bollocks, Violets are crud, I hate bloody flowers, And much prefer mud.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
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It's going to have to be a very long piece of ribbon or I'm going to have to do it verrrrrrrrry slowly.

 

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Turns out it's only utilizing one core rather than two. Stupid thing.

 

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World done, now The Nether and The End to do. But they'll be quick, much much quicker.
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All done. You can update to 1.2.3.

 

Maybe Jon can now finish his dome!

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.3474 In reply to 38140.3467 
You're not a Java programmer.

People excusing incompetance because they're unable to do better is one of the reasons the world is as fucked up as it is! :@
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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Yeah but criticizing something that you can't do better yourself is a dickish move.


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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38140.3476 In reply to 38140.3474 
But that doesn't stop me from doing it! :-D


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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.3477 In reply to 38140.3475 
No it's not! :@ If you hire a plumber to fix a leak and they end up flooding the room in the process, you don't say "oh that's ok, I couldn't do better".
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