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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3408 In reply to 38140.3407 
So no increase? Something I as ever need to look into.
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38140.3409 In reply to 38140.3408 
there was no increase in height over my dome, I think cos the chunk is pre-existing maybe?


anyhow - server is out of date now :(

Jon
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3410 In reply to 38140.3409 

I had a look and I couldn't see any easy/reasonable way to do it. I'll try and see what I can do again.

 

And I'll get it updated!

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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
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since no-one else seems to be playing now, would it be easier / simpler for you if I could have a copy of the world and just continue off-line?

Jon
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3412 In reply to 38140.3411 

I haven't upgraded yet. Been busy. I'll try and sort it tonight.

 

Then we'll see if anyone else starts playing (probably not) and I'll try and sort it out.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38140.3413 In reply to 38140.3412 
I gave it a play the other day to see what 1.1 is like. And... well, it has apples. Well done Notch. Good work.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.3414 In reply to 38140.3413 

It's not Notch, it's Jeb now, and he also fixed the naked sheep thing.

 

To be fair, I suspect there may have been a fair bit of cleaning up stuff rushed to get 1.0 ready he had to do, so I'll be waiting until 1.2 before deciding if he's making it better.

 

So far that's got climbable vines, a jungle biome, and new AI for zombies and wolves - not tried them out but feeling optimistic.

 

Of course, I'm not letting myself play at the moment because I'm trying to focus on getting stuff done, but hopefully I'll have the bulk of that out of the way by the time 1.2 is finished.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38140.3415 In reply to 38140.3414 
Aye I know, Notch is still responsible though.

But yeah, it's too little. It would be so fucking easy to keep this game interesting. I mean it lends itself to it - just add more block types, more things to find and discover and make - i.e. make what's good about the game better and keep it fresh for long time players.

But no, they insist on adding peripheral shit which is nothing to do with what makes the game good. And little of it.

They don't seem to understand what their game is. I am increasingly thinking that Notch was just an idiot who got lucky.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
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I am increasingly thinking that Notch was just an idiot who got lucky.

I've been saying that from pretty much the start!

Why don't you listen to me!? :(
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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I am sorry! You were right all along!
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.3418 In reply to 38140.3415 
I am increasingly thinking that Notch was just an idiot who got lucky.


me x3

I think he was a bit shocked at how popular it became, doesn't really know why and doesn't really know what to do with it now.

I too would be happier with more variation on the existing stuff, couldn't give a crap about potions, magic & feckin dragons.

Jon
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  JonCooper     
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It feels like it's turning into more of a fantasy style game. Not quite an MMORPG but certainly in a direction I don't like.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3420 In reply to 38140.3418 
Go bug Jeb to finish the modding API.

Soon as that's public there's bound to be heaps of people clamouring to build a mod that removes potions/etc and expands things in a more natural direction.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3421 In reply to 38140.3418 
Aye, exactly how I feel.

You tried Terraria?

I played it a while back expecting minecraft in 2d, which is absolutely isn't. It shares superficial similarities but its emphasis is wholly different.

But I played it again more recently, being a bit more patient. and it's pretty awesome. It has far more depth than minecraft - there's a reason to keep exploring, you can find artifacts and stuff which helps you progress and you can trade and materials keep being useful (I mean in minecraft it goes stone > iron > diamond and then nothing. And you can get to diamond in like an hour of play without breaking a sweat).

You can build in Terraria (in fact, you have to - your house serves a purpose (multiple purposes actually) unlike Minecraft). But building is not the point - it's not got that feeling of taking on immense building projects you get in Minecraft.

It's more about developing your character by getting better gear. Which necessitates exploration and so on. If you fancy it all, give it a pop!

(Has host & play multiplayer built in (works when pirated, too))
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38140.3422 In reply to 38140.3420 
Mods is a separate thing though. I don't think modding a game to be what you want it to be is the same as playing a well-rounded, cohesive, balanced thing. Also we'd all disagree as to what mods to use.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.3423 In reply to 38140.3422 
(which we do already anyway)
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38140.3424 In reply to 38140.3423 
(yes indeed)
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.3425 In reply to 38140.3421 
Jake plays Terraria a fair bit, but I always thought it looked a lot like 2D minecraft (though he swears it's not) - maybe sometime

Jon
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  JonCooper     
38140.3426 In reply to 38140.3425 
Aye, it's superficially like MC but in fact not at all. S'worth jimming to give it a try for sure.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.3427 In reply to 38140.3415 
I'm pretty sure I was crying about that before. They add things that are stupid instead of the things that will actually make people keep playing.


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