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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   20 Nov 2011 11:47 
 To:  JonCooper      3328 of 3934 
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The height wasn't actually adjusted in new releases, it's just been made easier to mod for more height.

And... yeah I'm bored of Minecraft. Or rather burned out on it after making Citadel and Hagia Sofia. I'm also not keen on the direction the latest updates are taking it, it's not concentrating on its strengths and rather trying to turn it into something it isn't and isn't good at.

After a while I may get into it again though.
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 From:  JonCooper   20 Nov 2011 11:59 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      3329 of 3934 
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I have also been thinking "why did they do that? that's not what minecraft is (for me" about certain changes

the constant eating thing bugs me
don't see the point of 'endermen'
jake says they might bring in dragons - why?
etc
Jon
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   20 Nov 2011 12:39 
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Aye, trying to make it into an RPG whe... I mean fine, RPGs are all well and good. But that's nothing to do with what's good about Minecraft. And there's so much he could add which would make what it is about better.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 12:42 
 To:  JonCooper      3331 of 3934 
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Endermen are because creepers stopped being scary.
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 From:  JonCooper   20 Nov 2011 12:43 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      3332 of 3934 
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given a choice, I would rather have wheels and cogs than endermen and dragons
Jon
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 From:  JonCooper   20 Nov 2011 12:43 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      3333 of 3934 
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wtf? endermen are easy to kill, creepers are bastards
Jon
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 12:53 
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I wasn't referring to ease of killing (although I've not even got close enough to hit one yet; stupid bastards teleport too much), but Notch's intent in creating them.

 

I don't recall ever being killed by a Creeper, and only a couple of times (when I first started) did one ruin anything I've built.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   20 Nov 2011 13:03 
 To:  JonCooper      3335 of 3934 
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Aye. I'd rather have lots more types of blocks which actually do stuff. More crafting options and stuff.
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 From:  JonCooper   20 Nov 2011 13:11 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      3336 of 3934 
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I don't mind them destroying stuff, cos I could turn them off if I wanted
I find they have a habit of sneaking up behind me, and have had a couple jump off cliffs to sky-bomb me!
Jon
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   20 Nov 2011 17:32 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      3337 of 3934 
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I agree so hard with this it's like I am agreeing with steel! No idea what that means, but it sure sounded good in my brain.

I want it to be alchemy/legos. I want to be able to invent/discover things that no one else has by mixing different types of materials and crap. Not that I would, because I'm lazy and not very inventive, but that to me is what the game should have been. There are already enough rpg/monster games.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 17:35 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3338 of 3934 
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Lego!

THERE'S NO FUCKING S!!! :@
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 17:39 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3339 of 3934 
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Without hostile mobs, Minecraft is Dull Dull Dull.

The RPG elements are meh, but having everything perfectly safe and un-dangerous just gets tedious.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   20 Nov 2011 17:43 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      3340 of 3934 
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There is when I type it! :-P
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   20 Nov 2011 17:44 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      3341 of 3934 
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Not if it were like, say that game where you can draw things into being. Scribblenaughts or some such.

If you were almost unlimited in the things you could mix/invent it wouldn't get boring. You'd try to be the first with electricity or indoor plumbing.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 17:51 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3342 of 3934 
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Nos theres nots! :@
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 17:51 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3343 of 3934 
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There is already an unlimited number of things I can mix in almost any programming language I choose.

If I want to do things visually, I can use Python and a 3D Graphics app to recreate everything Minecraft can do, and endless more.

The reason why I haven't done that is because the brief moments of fun would get bogged down with seemingly non-stop tedium.

And the end result wouldn't even have any actual use in the outside world, other than an illusionary inflation of ego.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   20 Nov 2011 17:53 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      3344 of 3934 
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Um, there is no use to what it does now to the outside world. There is no use to any game outside of the game as far as I can tell.

I'm just telling you what I'd wanted the game to be for me. Notch made what he wanted it to be.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   20 Nov 2011 17:54 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3345 of 3934 
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quote:
I agree so hard with this it's like I am agreeing with steel!


:'D

I'm agreeing back, equally hard.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   20 Nov 2011 17:59 
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)      3346 of 3934 
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Peter is agreeing softly, like a wuss.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2011 18:39 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      3347 of 3934 
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There's some protein folding game where players are helping to cure cancer, or something, but it's painfully shit.
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