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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Mikee     
38140.2482 In reply to 38140.2481 
Excellent, thanks. I'm glad it only took me asking politely 10 times and an argument on the forum to get you to see what everyone else seemed to take for granted.
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 From:  Mikee  
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Excellent, thanks. I'm glad it only took me asking politely 10 times and an argument on the forum to get you to see what everyone else seemed to take for granted.


..... at what point did you become such a dick?

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It's pretty fucking easy really.

I'll do a helpful and beautiful diagram.



And that's really easy to see for a new person coming onto the server, isn't it?

No, it's really not. I see lots of buildings in random places and have no idea who built them and what plans they have for the future.

But thanks for the diagram.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Mikee     
38140.2484 In reply to 38140.2483 
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..... at what point did you become such a dick?


I think I've pretty much always been a dick.

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And that's really easy to see for a new person coming onto the server, isn't it?


As I say, no one else seemed to struggle. And I did tell you several times.

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But thanks for the diagram.


My pleasure :D (hug)
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 From:  patch  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2485 In reply to 38140.2478 
You left Oscar off that diagram, you elitist /bastard/.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  patch     
38140.2486 In reply to 38140.2485 
OSCAR I AM SORRY!

:'S
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2487 In reply to 38140.2478 
Maybe elitist is the wrong word. But what you've said is exactly what it feels like. What I mean is, if I'm new and I start building and you ask politely that I move (ask, not tell), it can still come across as being told to by someone who was here before me and thus comes across as being more important. That doesn't of course mean they are of course, just that's the way it comes across.

And because there isn't an immediately obvious reason why I'm being "told" to move, just that you might build there, it's makes it confusing.

Maybe being made to feel excluded is a better choice of words.

And I didn't just say it's not easy, I gave a specific example as to why it appears to not be easy.

doohicky

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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2488 In reply to 38140.2478 

And me too, with my tiny entrance to f'loads of caves (and lava :C ) and a pointless stairway to the skies, just to the lower left of Lindy :'(

 

(I AM KIDDING. I don't actually give a sh*t)

[...Insert Brain Here...]
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Matt     
38140.2489 In reply to 38140.2487 
I don't know what you're basing this on but none of that is really what happened.

I say again: No one else had a problem with this. Everyone had the decency/social intelligence to either find an empty spot or say "hey, mind if I build x over here?". That's co-operation, and there's nothing remotely elitist about it. It is, quite simply, courtesy. It's not hard.

I didn't just ask Mikee to move without explanation - that's not what happened. I said something very much like: "That's really close to my stuff - why not find an ampty area to build in like everyone else has? There's plenty of empty space out there". He's also not exactly all that new - he knows us all and he build a pretty lengthy railway out into empty space before he started what he's doing now.

There's no rules to this, it's pretty organic and social and co-operative. If you want to know something, you ask and you err on the side of caution where other peoples' stuff is concerned. I wouldn't go and build the Eiffel Tower next to Ken's Space Needle or go and enclose Jon's maze-map in soil or whatever despite there being no rules against doing so.

It just takes a bit of common sense, a bit of courtesy and ... listening when someone tells you something.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)     
38140.2490 In reply to 38140.2488 
But you're a gypsy, constantly on the move. The whole map is your home, Serg (hug)
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2491 In reply to 38140.2484 

You forgot to cram someone in between my old build and you. Hence the new me.

 


Edit: You can actually mark my old place Tanner's.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.2492 In reply to 38140.2491 
I still don't know what/where that is. The only thing I can see between you and me is ... your VERY OWN SON'S sand house. Do you mean that? :D
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2493 In reply to 38140.2492 
He said it wasn't his. I held his hand and walked him to it and said /is this yours, did you do this/? And he said no. He built on top of my house not over there.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2494 In reply to 38140.2492 
Had it been his I'd have torn it down myself.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  graphitone     
38140.2495 In reply to 38140.2463 
Check Drew's pretty diagram. It's the one up there by itself (for now).
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
38140.2496 In reply to 38140.2493 
Ahh ok. He said ages ago he was building a sand house near his dad's place so I assumed that was it. It's not been worked on for ages. Prolly would've been ok to remove it.

But yeah, nice to relocate every so often anyway.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2497 In reply to 38140.2496 
I usually only randomly smack the kid every few days, I don't know why he'd lie to me!


Yes, I'm very very pleased being up there. It's a nice area. Full of wildlife and pigs.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
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Pigs are noble creatures. Not as noble as the curious chicken. But pretty noble.
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 From:  Mikee  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2499 In reply to 38140.2489 

Again, you're missing the point that I don't know who owns these buildings. I did not know that people 'own' large areas. I explored the citadel and it appeared to be owned by many people. I usually see people hanging around in this general area so assumed this is where people were building things at the moment.

 

I built my building with more space than any of the space between all the other buildings in the area to make sure that nobody felt it was too close.

 

You said my tree was too close, which was fine, so I moved out into more space.

 

Do you see? You seem to be finding this hard to grasp.

 

I played just how everyone plays on every private server I've played on so far. You build a respectable distance from other peoples buildings so if they wish to expand it you're not getting in the way.

 

If people prefer to claim large areas on this server, that's fine - just don't act like a dick about it. I can't even SEE the church from that hill when I play on my laptop at home.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.2500 In reply to 38140.2498 
That makes me feel better about eating their bacon.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Mikee     
38140.2501 In reply to 38140.2499 

But surely something this would've been better. Still close to everything but it also give /you/ more space as well.

 

I think people need to build where they can expand into as well. I built a bit out of the way so people wouldn't encroach on my space, as have many people, Jon for example is quite out of the way.

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