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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
38140.1379 In reply to 38140.1378 

Any chance you can give me a list of the mods you're using on Teh server?

 

Might set up a server up at home for me to play on instead of using Single player mode.

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
38140.1380 In reply to 38140.1379 

Yes, but not til I go home and check :D

 


Main ones are: craftbukkit for the server and essentials 2.1 which gives most if the regular functions you use like item and warp etc.



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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
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Okie doke, that should get me started I guess!

 

I've got a feeling my normal server will probably fall over (1.5 GHz P4 1GB RAM) when I try it properly. Minecraft server was complaining of load issues when I just ran it and connected on my own, no mods.

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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
38140.1382 In reply to 38140.1357 
Pet Tameable wolves are now available at your nearest Minecraft 1.4 update.

Here's hopefully upgrading Teh Mine will be easier for Kos this time.

doohicky

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Matt     
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New logo too...

(Hmmm... Are there any good in-browser mini-image editors yet? That can be added to Beehive so I can paste from clipboard, crop, resize, then add an attachment, instead of having to launch a full-blown graphics app to do this.)

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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There is a TinyMCE thing but I'm sure it costs.
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 From:  patch  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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If you use Chrome there's all kinds of image editor apps in the web app store thing. Maybe one of those?
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  patch     
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I meant more something that is part of Beehive rather than a browser plugin.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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Um... :?

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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Oh, wait, it's still April 1st isn't it. :(
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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p.s. don't try to stroke a wolf.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
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(erm)

I have no idea how those attachments got added to that post too.

I didn't press anything remotely attachment related.
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 From:  koswix   
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Long story, but I'm back and the mine is up and 1.4'd. Not updated the plugins yet, so some things might not work quite right.


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 From:  koswix   
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For anyone that wants it...

 

Teh Mine setup:

 

Server: CraftBukkit, latest recommended build (http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/promotion/latest/Recommended/)
Plugins:

 

BackupPlugin - creates a RAR'd backup of the world files every 30 minutes to a seperate hard drive. keeps the 5 most recent ones.
dynmap - dynamic browser based map
Essentials - provides basic functionality like /item etc.
EssentialsChat - extends chat functionality
EssentialsGroupBridge - no idea
EssentialsGroupManager - permissions management for players
EssentialsProtect - anti-griefing stuff
EssentialsServerlist - multi-server support
EssentialsSpawn - errr, think that allows each player to hav ea custom spawn point or something
HeroicDeath - "fun" messages when people die "JonCooper fell to his death" etc.
MinecartMania Complete - the 9 plugins that are included in the complete download on their page, makes mine carts fun
MobileAdmin - lets me admin the server via the MobileAdmin app on android market
WorldEdit - makes huge wooly spheres that stop Jon logging in when set on fire :$

 


The plugins should all be found here: http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=

 

I think the cock up last time I updated stuff was because Essentials has been changed -I think all the Essentials stuff which was seperate mods is now in one mod (which most of it should have been anyway tbh).



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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
38140.1393 In reply to 38140.1392 
This isn't intended to be as critical as it might sound, but...

My falloff in interest in playing on the server is partly down to the number of mods. It's just a bit overwhelming and feels a bit too cheaty now. I know of course that I don't have to use them but... I will. And everyone else will be. The only real achievement comes from the scale of the project, which in itself kinda becomes offputting.

I may well be alone in this, I dunno.

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.1394 In reply to 38140.1393 

Which ones? I've just deleted WorldEdit as I only installed it for clearing the Eden project area, and it was out of date now with 1.4

 

I quite like MineCartMania as it makes minecarts useful, but still requires you to actually think about how you're doing the carts and stuff.

 

Essentials is really no different to what we had with hey0 previously, i suppose it might have a bit more functionality but not anything that I personally use much (except occasionaly god mode when playing with lava :$ )

 

I'm up for changing things up, though. I think i've worked out kits with the new stuff, so we could try turning off item cheats and just having a tool kit for a bit.

 

I was also thinking that with the grieing tools in Essentials I could protect the existing buildings and then turn creepers and stuff on properly without fear of all our hard work being sssssttttt'd to death by them.



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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  koswix      
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Yeah god mode bothers me. I mean replenishing health is fine but falling off tall stuff should always kill you because it's funny :( Same for lava. And item cheating... I kinda feel both ways about that. The big projects would be impossible without it but... it also takes some of the fun/satisfaction out of it.

Ideally I'd like an economy but that realllly needs a lot for regular players and interest generally seems to be waning a bit.

I think we all kinda got bored of just building stuff for the sake of it. It's a lotttt of fun for a while but it has a limit. I dunno what the solution is though. It's a shame the game doesn't really have a mechanic for /useful/ buildings where we could all work together on something that actually had a function, y'know?

Maybe it's time to graduate to Wurm Online :Y

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 From:  koswix   
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.1396 In reply to 38140.1395 
Yeah, I rarely have any inspiration to build stuff these days. Perhaps I shall turn the server off for a bit and see what folks want to do after a week or so :|


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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
38140.1397 In reply to 38140.1395 

I think using the old idea of builders, crafters and miners would be good. We don't as such need an economy but just be like...

 

Builder - I need some of this block.
Miner - I've got some in my chest, or, I'll go mine you some.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  koswix      
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No, leave it on. I want to play now since I'm actually free!
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