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 From:  milko   24 Sep 2008 11:40 
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Sorry, sorry sorry. I still haven't sorted the amazon affiliates thing. I will!

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 From:  Dave!!   24 Sep 2008 11:57 
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Good idea and one I also endorse :)
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)   24 Sep 2008 12:15 
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W3rd.
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 From:  MrTrent   24 Sep 2008 12:30 
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It's probably a good idea, as long as we never have to see them.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    24 Sep 2008 12:49 
 To:  Matt      160 of 220 
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Hmmm, just to make things clearer: the £427 excludes any referral pots.

TradeDoubler requires a bank account, and I didn't want to put it all in my account until I got around to sorting out a Teh Bank Account, so simplest solution is to use that amount as the starting balance for next year, once I actually get the account setup.

Um, I'll do a diagram:




And that's also excluding the Amazon pot which milko is sorting out very soon, yes? :)


IOW, I don't think we should/need to bother with the AdSense stuff.


However, we should definitely either:

1) just restore the auto-referral links.

2) write a filter that adds a "teh referral link" option after any normal link, so people have a choice which one to follow.

3) same as 2, but in reverse (so main link is referral, and there's a "non referral" placed after it).
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 From:  Matt   24 Sep 2008 13:12 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)       161 of 220 
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The referral stuff should be active, for Play.com and Amazon.co.uk at least. Unless the word filters are broken again, but I don't think they are.

With the Adsense stuff, I'm thinking it would help just to boost the income a little bit. I've seen a few sites go under just trying to survive on donations, and with Beehive becoming more and more popular I wouldn't want this place to start costing anyone (you) lots of money, especially if we start using oodles of bandwidth a month.

If you're worried about people being turned away by the presence of adverts we can always add a little foot note to them explaining how they'll disappear after you register sort of thing.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    24 Sep 2008 13:38 
 To:  Matt      162 of 220 
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Xen linked something the other day that didn't have the referral bit on it, and I'm sure I've seen other similar situations.


I'm wondering about you specifying the .co.uk for Amazon there though?

Test...

http://www.amazon.com/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-Building-Commercial-Quality-Plug-Ins/dp/0321228472

Neither have it in the preview...
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    24 Sep 2008 13:45 
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As for the AdSense / hosting costs...

 

How much data transfer do we have? - I remember it being something huge like 500GB a month, and we'd have to have quite a lot more visits to reach that (I'd be surprised if we're even near 10% of that at the moment.)

 

I think pushing the affiliate stuff is more likely to boost income than AdSense - how many people actually follow AdSense vs affiliate links?
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 From:  Matt   24 Sep 2008 14:18 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)       164 of 220 
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On checking the Amazon one had been switched from PREG to 'Match All' some where along the line, so you're right it wasn't working, but it is now. And yes, amazon.co.uk is what it's written to match. Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?

As for Adsense vs. affiliate links, well you and Milko have the stats so I couldn't compare them to any Adsense stats, not that we have any Adsense stats anyway.

The only way I can see us pushing the affiliate links beyond how we do them at the moment would be to start listing them at the bottom of every page or trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be. Would certainly be easy if the two sites had feeds of their products.

I'd be inclined to think that we can do both without too much hassle. suitably sized AdSense adverts at the top of the thread list and message pane for Guests and Affiliate text only links at the bottom for all users.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    24 Sep 2008 14:31 
 To:  milko      165 of 220 
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quote:
Is that right or does our affiliatee code work with Amazon.com as well?


Are you able to check that?
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 From:  milko   24 Sep 2008 16:12 
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It doesn't as far as I know. I'll check when I get the moneys info.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    24 Sep 2008 22:59 
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If it is only .co.uk, based on the very quick test I did earlier, we might be able to simply switch .com addresses over - it used to be before they used different IDs, but it appears that they've unified that now.


As for stats... well nothing to compare against, but here are some anyway. :)
In the past 12 months, we've had:
336 clicks, 250 unique visitors, 27 sales.


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trawl Amazon and Play.com for product names to match in posts that we then turn into affiliate links, but I'm not sure how easy that would be.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. :)

At least for Amazon, who do web services which can avoid the trawling - maybe we can add a button to the post screen "find amazon product" that does all the magic and returns a suitable link.

There's stuff within TradeDoubler related to product feed / product databases, but I'm not currently awake enough to figure out exactly what's what.
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 From:  Woggy   25 Sep 2008 06:16 
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I always buy everything from Amazon through the drop down link at the top, don't tell me it's not been working properly?
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    25 Sep 2008 11:33 
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The drop down link is fine.

This is for adding the referral id to Amazon links within posts.
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 From:  Woggy   25 Sep 2008 11:45 
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Ah, that's alright then B-)
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 From:  Al JunioR (53NORTH)   25 Sep 2008 22:09 
 To:  Matt      171 of 220 
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I landed once on an obscure forum, and every 3 posts was one line of small dark text in the field BG with a hyperlink to something mentioned in the last 3 posts. Was deadly accurate, with some great web links. Think it was a gardening forum, when I was looking for obscure recipes.

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 From:  Matt   2 Oct 2008 21:31 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)       172 of 220 
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Think you'll be wanting to reopen that ticket (or open a new one).

Our Plesk License has expired. Again.

This time it's gone completely, well Plesk is still there and I can login but I now can't use anything, it just goes to the purchase license page, even when logging in as root.

Seeing as we've just paid out for another year in advance the least you'd expect is for them to give us another year long Plesk License.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    2 Oct 2008 22:06 
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Grrr! I want to thump the idiots.


I've re-opened the previous ticket, will let you know when they reply.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)    2 Oct 2008 22:14 
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Well, initial response is nice and prompt:
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Dear Peter,

We are working on your issue and would update you our findings soon.

Regards,
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Sam M.
Team Leader
Plesk Linux/Unix Support
EuroVPS, Inc.
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 From:  Matt   2 Oct 2008 22:31 
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Oh, can you see what they can do about upgrading us / moving to a new server as well?

 

Upgrading Apache, MySQL and PHP at least would be nice, but a whole new server that someone actually supports would be better. Something less archaic than Redhat 3AS, which not even Redhat support anymore it seems.

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