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 From:  Dave!!   30 Nov 2006 22:19 
 To:  spinning_plates      58 of 126 
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I find it daft that Winter actually (supposedly) begins on the shortest day of the year. No sooner has Winter started then the nights begin to pull out again :S
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 From:  JonCooper   1 Dec 2006 08:16 
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that's about what I thought, yay me !
Jon
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 From:  spinning_plates   1 Dec 2006 15:51 
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Oh I completely agree, it seems ridiculous. I always though as a kid that winter started in November some time. However, I was, evidently, wrong.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   1 Dec 2006 16:09 
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It is ridiculous, and that's why it's a definition that should be ignored, and one of the more accurate definitions uses instead.

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Astronomically, it starts with the winter solstice, and ends with the spring equinox

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In meteorology, it is by convention counted instead as the whole months of December, January and February in the Northern Hemisphere.

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the winter solstice is traditionally considered as midwinter[citation needed], the winter season beginning 1 November on All Hallows or Samhain. Winter ends and spring begins on Imbolc or Candlemas, which is February 1 or 2.

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the three-month period associated with the coldest average temperatures typically begins somewhere in late November
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 From:  JonCooper   1 Dec 2006 16:14 
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Astronomically, it starts with the winter solstice, and ends with the spring equinox


isn't that the same as what he said? ^^
Jon
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 From:  Dave!!   1 Dec 2006 16:27 
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Yes, but BP's point I believe is that there's loads of different definitions about when it does and doesn't start. As has been mentioned, I think it's daft that it supposedly begins on the shortest day.
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 From:  MrTrent   1 Dec 2006 16:52 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      64 of 126 
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In meteorology, it is by convention counted instead as the whole months of December, January and February in the Northern Hemisphere.
That's the definition of winter i've always gone by.

MrTrent Oh, don't live up to your given roles. There's more inside you that you won't show.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   1 Dec 2006 17:11 
 To:  JonCooper      65 of 126 
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Indeed it was, but to expand on what Dave!! pointed out, sp hadn't mentioned that it was the Astronomical definition.
Personally I find the climatic definition to be the most sensible - since winter is generally 'the cold part of the year', so why not make it align with the actual coldest part of the year.
(and the time of the year when the autumn leaves have mostly finished falling and the time where mid-winter is actually in the middle.)

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 From:  spinning_plates   1 Dec 2006 17:52 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      66 of 126 
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Well, here at least, the coldest part of the year probably is between about Dec 21st and March 21st. It's not gotten really frigid yet and it doesn't tend to start thawing out until the end of March.

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 From:  JonCooper   1 Dec 2006 18:01 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      67 of 126 
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it does align with the cold part of the year, end of Dec to end of March
Jon
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 From:  Dave!!   1 Dec 2006 18:04 
 To:  JonCooper      68 of 126 
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I disagree. I consider December in general to be colder than March. We've already been having frosts and whatnot here. I tend to find those begin dying out towards the end of Feb / beginning of March.
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 From:  JonCooper   1 Dec 2006 19:39 
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eh? frosts? nah, it hasn't dipped below 10O yet (here)
Jon
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   1 Dec 2006 20:41 
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start of december, to mid-march.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   3 Dec 2006 11:52 
 To:  JonCooper      71 of 126 
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It certainly has here in Sheffield and the trees no longer have any leaves that can be shed. It's winter here.

 

And the wind that is managing to shake my house worries me.


Antoine
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 From:  Manthorp   3 Dec 2006 16:29 
 To:  mr_swayzee      72 of 126 
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Oi! Dirty ghost Patrick! Irrespective of the meteorological nicities with which the rest of the possie define the bleak midwinter, I say it is nigh and I want an album of warming winter grooves to snuggle up to the missus with.
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 From:  mr_swayzee   4 Dec 2006 09:38 
 To:  Manthorp      73 of 126 
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well, you could have one now but it would be shortish, I would like some more reccomendations please

pull your weight forum! 

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 From:  Manthorp   4 Dec 2006 12:09 
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Aye, get a bloody move on. Last one to post her or his two wintery songs is a pocket-fluffy werthers.
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 From:  mr_swayzee   4 Dec 2006 12:47 
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Running time as stands - 52:03 from 13 Tracks

shite

come along folks, think warm cozy nights by the fire, think mulled wine, think walks in the snow on crisp clear mornings, think sledging with dad, just.... THINK!! 

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 From:  milko   4 Dec 2006 13:03 
 To:  mr_swayzee      76 of 126 
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I will add "That Was The Worst Christmas Ever!" by Sufjan Stevens please. Again can supply if need be.

milko
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 From:  JonCooper   4 Dec 2006 14:01 
 To:  mr_swayzee      77 of 126 
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I should like to add

 

"Fairytale of New York." by The Pogues

 


I particularly like the line: "You scumbag, you maggot, You cheap lousy faggot, Happy Christmas, your arse, I thank God it's our last".

Jon
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