Wacom me do

From: graphitone 3 Nov 2016 16:27
To: koswix 71 of 84
Ah yeah, I've not sold anything on eBay for sometime, and was forgetting about that.

Didn't you or Ant work out the profit margins on selling stuff on eBay a while back, as if you were a business?
From: william (WILLIAMA) 3 Nov 2016 18:17
To: graphitone 72 of 84
From: koswix 3 Nov 2016 19:15
To: graphitone 73 of 84
I did, don't recall if I posted it here though. It's shocking how much they take really. A 10 quid market, for instance, works out at about 2 quid profit.
From: ANT_THOMAS 3 Nov 2016 20:49
To: graphitone 74 of 84
Same as Kos, don't know if I've posted it but I've had a tentative look. I've been tempted for a long time to bring in a couple of hundred pounds worth of something in bulk from China to sell on eBay. Things like arduino relays and other small components.

Never did the maths properly to figure out how many and how cheap I'd need to get them for to make it worthwhile. Especially when you look at the market prices, cost of postage, ebay fees, PayPal fees, potential for people to be dicks and say they've not turned up or they are broken.
From: koswix 5 Nov 2016 18:06
To: ALL75 of 84
Well I got paid for some work today, so I just ordered the Huion h610 pro for 45 quid. If it's awful I'll punt it back on ebay and get a wacom pen and touch (quite like the idea of touch sensor for zoom and stuff, but don't know if I'd actually use it).
From: koswix10 Nov 2016 15:48
To: ALL76 of 84
So my Huion H610 Pro arrived yesterday. Got to say that I'm very impressed so far, it's years ahead of the old Bamboo that I used to have. Not sure it's got the right feel for sketching directly, but certainly it's good enough for colouring.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/332141d4zepjfpk/seated%20nude.jpg?dl=0
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)10 Nov 2016 23:33
To: koswix 77 of 84
> Not sure it's got the right feel for sketching directly, but certainly it's good enough for colouring.

Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying it's more like a felt tip than a pencil/biro, or something else?

From: koswix11 Nov 2016 00:29
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 78 of 84
It's not really like any of them.

I've disabled the buttons on the pen as I couldn't really workout how to hold it comfortably and not accidentally press them. I tend to rotate the pen as I draw, so even starting off in a good position doesn't last long. Also I instinctively want to hold it in a writing position, but for sketching I'd normally hold a pencil in a variety of ways depending on the stroke and control required (NJ), which feels a bit silly with this and not really comfortable or intuitive either.

The feel of the pen on the surface is hard to describe. It lacks the bite that a real pencil has on paper. I think there's less tactile feedback. I experimented with putting a piece of paper over the surface which does improve things, but I suspect the (replaceable) nib would wear out far too quickly with that on.

The disconnect between drawing on a board and seeing the results on a screen is something I think I'll.get used to, though. Going to experiment with a reduced active area tomorrow and see if that improves the feel and drawing position. With the whole area active I find I'm reluctant to move my hand as much as I would on paper and end up drawing in a really uncomfortable position, which also leads to bad results as lines go awry.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)11 Nov 2016 02:25
To: koswix 79 of 84
Yeah I found tablets, even bigish ones really cramped my drawing style. Way better than mouse, but not really satisfactory in any way that encouraged me try to improve with practice. OTOH I found a tablet, even a 4x5" model excelled for using the pen tool in photoshop, and similar bezier drawing and curves manipulation in 3d animation software.
From: koswix11 Nov 2016 10:50
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 80 of 84
Going to try it in mud box later, and it's great for tracing scans to vectors in inkscape.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)20 Nov 2016 01:46
To: koswix 81 of 84
I want a Huion GT-190 with IPS screen, so I can do photo manipulation stuff, so don't need it like a pencil so long as it's easier than a mouse to mask and clone and stuff, which I expect it should be.

Wish there was a way to try them out, but maybe if any place does offers this week I'll just go for it.

From: koswix20 Nov 2016 10:15
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 82 of 84
Surely there must be somewhere in London that has them in Stock and able to demonstrate them?
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)20 Nov 2016 14:02
To: koswix 83 of 84
If there is, they're not behind a search engine. :(
From: koswix20 Nov 2016 20:49
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 84 of 84
Ah well, just order one from Amazon then and if you don't like it send it back.