Today I joined the late 20th century

From: ANT_THOMAS13 Jul 2016 14:44
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 8 of 51
I guess it's a good way to avoid receiving calls.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)13 Jul 2016 14:48
To: ANT_THOMAS 9 of 51
 :-@
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)14 Jul 2016 13:32
To: ALL10 of 51
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I use an old metalized hdd bag

... which doesn't actually work I discovered this morning, when I dialed the cell number while it was in the bag, and it rang. So I might have to spend some real money.  :-((

From: milko14 Jul 2016 13:36
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 11 of 51
I'm confused. Why not just switch it off and/or leave it at home if you don't want it to work.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)14 Jul 2016 13:50
To: milko 12 of 51
GPS

https://www.justsecurity.org/31876/world-this-uk-government-hacking/

This is the main reason that has held me back from getting a cell.
EDITED: 14 Jul 2016 13:57 by DSMITHHFX
From: graphitone14 Jul 2016 14:10
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 14 of 51
You've not bunked up with 53North have you?

The reason he's been quiet so long could be due to traversing the northern polar regions on foot to get to Canada and set up his base in your fair country.

Given the vastness of Canada though, he's probably had to use your phone's GPS to track you down, thus rendering his tin foil hat machinations somewhat hypocritical.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)14 Jul 2016 14:13
To: graphitone 15 of 51
OK, but I duct-taped the phone to a truck that's bound for Louisiana.
From: milko14 Jul 2016 14:32
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 16 of 51
You want it to use GPS but not anything else? You might've been better just getting a GPS device!
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)14 Jul 2016 15:06
To: milko 17 of 51
Nope, I don't want to be GPS tracked everywhere I go, even when I'm not using it. Also camera and mic.
From: graphitone14 Jul 2016 16:53
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 18 of 51
Where are you potentially going, and what might you potentially be saying that you wouldn't want to be recorded?

Of course, you potentially wouldn't want to tell me on here and potentially bring about any risk.

 
From: milko14 Jul 2016 17:16
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 19 of 51
I'm back to being confused. Why don't you just turn it off, again? When you use it, all that stuff is back on unless you disable it (in which case if you're going to be paranoid properly, know that disabling it in settings won't disable it fully). So what difference does it make?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)14 Jul 2016 19:21
To: ALL20 of 51
I don't want to be tracked by google, any 3d-party apps I might want to install, the NSA, local cops or anybody really. It just creeps me out. :-S

If you're fine with being tracked by all of the above, fine. It's the default.

As milko points out, disabling the features in settings and even turning the device off doesn't necessarily disable the features.
From: ANT_THOMAS15 Jul 2016 10:02
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 21 of 51
I love a bit of Google tracking. Timeline in Google Maps is one of my favourite Google features.

Also, turning the device off does disable the features, because it's off.
From: milko15 Jul 2016 10:04
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 22 of 51
Honestly I think the only way to guarantee all of that is to not have the device in the first place. And you probably have to worry about what sort of router you have at home and which ISP and whether to VPN for everything and yadda yadda it likely gets a bit difficult to manage when it all adds up.
From: milko15 Jul 2016 10:05
To: ANT_THOMAS 23 of 51
That's what they want you to think!
From: graphitone15 Jul 2016 10:10
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 24 of 51
If you're a law abiding citizen (and I'm assuming you are, I don't think there's a law forbidding tin foil hats), then is being tracked necessarily a bad thing? 

 
From: Manthorp15 Jul 2016 13:10
To: graphitone 25 of 51
I'm not bothered about being tracked (and I'm far from a law-abiding citizen!) and I enjoy some of the products that depend upon tracking. But I do think that one should have the right not to be tracked if one would rather not.
EDITED: 15 Jul 2016 13:14 by MANTHORP
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)15 Jul 2016 13:21
To: ALL26 of 51
http://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20160715/281655369415092

I'm law abiding -ish, and maybe that matters now.

But in some dystopian future in which, say Donald Trump is POTUS, or UKIP forms a gummint. Crazy, I know...
From: graphitone15 Jul 2016 13:50
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 27 of 51
The side scrolling on that page rather than the usual vertical up down arrangement stopped me from reading the article. Is this how Canada internets itself?