Dump Trump

From: fixrman15 Dec 2015 03:04
To: Dave!! 27 of 207
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As for the whole situation, it's a lot more simple than you make out. Trump is an idiot, but unfortunately there is a noticeable percentage of Americans who are also idiots and who cannot see how dangerous some of the crap is that he's spouting. That is why he has some support. Thankfully, I also believe that a majority of Americans are intelligent enough to recognise him for the unpleasant and dangerous turd that he is.

Thanks, Mr. Expert. Idiots are worldwide. Britain's got them, America's got them, Russia's got them... nobody is immune.
 

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I also believe that a majority of Americans are intelligent enough

That's where your math is completely wrong.

America didn't realise what a dangerous turd obama is, that's why we are where we are. Now that I know what an expert pundit you really are, how about a piece on Bernie Sanders?

From: fixrman15 Dec 2015 03:08
To: milko 28 of 207
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the current incumbent is clearly a younger fitter man if this really matters.

Right. He smokes cigarettes. Obviously, a moron.

From: koswix15 Dec 2015 09:32
To: fixrman 29 of 207
It's telling that instead of attacking the arguments you can't help yourself from attacking the person making it.

Mainly it tells us that you're a cunt.
EDITED: 15 Dec 2015 09:38 by KOSWIX
From: milko15 Dec 2015 11:26
To: fixrman 30 of 207
Really? Oh no! 

You just seem to be flailing a bit in this thread. Lots of seemingly-random critical opinions but have you got a coherent position on any of it?

Is Trump your favoured candidate for the Republicans? Do you think he'll make better policies than his competition and the Democrats? Are you able to acknowledge that your ideas that "we" all like Clinton are false? This just doesn't seem like much of a discussion so far, that's all. I realise that might be hard since you seem to have decided to be a lone voice of right-wing America in a somewhat left-leaning UK forum (and the UK's right is still a bit left of your Democrat party) but otherwise what's the point?
From: fixrman15 Dec 2015 14:34
To: koswix 31 of 207
What arguments? You don't like Trump because he has shitty hair, calls it as he sees it and isn't a leftie? Because he has a lot of money, isn't a politician and his views don't match yours? Fuck you, you politically correct asshat. You don't know shit from Shinola and you don't know fuck all about American politics. It would require a true twat to think he sees one, but there you go thinking again.

For the record, I think Trump is a bloviating buffoon in most cases; I had a boss that talked just like him and he was a nickel holding up a dollar. BUT, if Trump can get this country moving again, can cut through the red tape of Washington and actually get things done; if he can get Congress to stop sitting on their hands whilst they are figuring out a way to suck more money out of the hands of Americans; if he can restore American pride instead of being an apologist all of the time, then fine - I'll be for him.

There's lots of time though, and a couple of the other candidates will likely be a better fit. The problem is here, unfortunately: It isn't about who is the best fit for the job, but who can get elected. It is an unfortunate turn of events, been happening this way for years. What do you think the chances would be - today - that our greatest president, Abraham Lincoln - would be able to be elected today? Zero, because he was gangly, a bit odd-looking and probably would have looked worse on TV.

The best person for POTUS probably would never even want the damn job. Tell me this: Has there ever been a Republican, or a candidate from any other party than the Democratic party or anyone right of centre that you have liked?
From: koswix15 Dec 2015 15:07
To: fixrman 32 of 207
Classic cunt behaviour there. Invent a term ('politically correct'), then use it to dismiss arguments without having to engage your brain. Well done.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)15 Dec 2015 15:17
To: fixrman 33 of 207
From: fixrman15 Dec 2015 15:28
To: milko 34 of 207
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Is Trump your favoured candidate for the Republicans?

No.

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Do you think he'll make better policies than his competition and the Democrats?

It would be nigh to impossible for him to not do so.

 

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This just doesn't seem like much of a discussion so far, that's all. I realise that might be hard since you seem to have decided to be a lone voice of right-wing America in a somewhat left-leaning UK forum (and the UK's right is still a bit left of your Democrat party) but otherwise what's the point?

It isn't much of a discussion, because this decidedly left-handed forum wants it that way. Perhaps you all aren't actually interested in discussion at all, maybe it is just comforting to post anti-candidate material as entertainment and you can all agree with one another and have a good guffaw. Well, I was always taught that if two people always agree, one is not necessary.

So far, All I have heard is pretty much that Trump is no good because he has bad hair, wants to close our borders to Muslims until we figure out a way to properly vet them and not let terrorists into the country. I agree with that. My uncle could not come here in the 70s from England because he was told that he couldn't come in unless he could prove he wouldn't take an American's job away. Now we have a border like Swiss cheese, with people from any country whatsoever here, many illegally. I support legal immigration, by people whose backgrounds have been investigated thoroughly.

Trump calls things as he sees them; one thing that he is forcing is dialogue. Candidates from both sides now are going to have to address issues he raises, like it or not. He will have to defend his positions and they will have to stand up to criticism, but other candidates also will be forced to make a stand. That, in and of itself, is a Good Thing.
 

From: fixrman15 Dec 2015 15:33
To: koswix 35 of 207
Right. About as clever as using snide and sarcastic comments instead of forming a valid rebuttal. Weak.

<Agent Smith> I am wasting my time with you. </Agent Smith>
From: koswix15 Dec 2015 15:34
To: fixrman 36 of 207
Love his presidential portrait.

From: koswix15 Dec 2015 15:35
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 37 of 207
I heard he was only there because his mother once sucked a dick so he was intrigued by his heritage.
From: milko15 Dec 2015 18:18
To: fixrman 38 of 207
OK, that's a better swing at it, thanks.

Is terrorism by muslim immigrants a big problem in the US? I was under the impression it was pretty rare. What's his policy on domestic terrorism and the current epidemic of mass shootings you are sadly suffering?

If we shouldn't guffaw at Trump he should really stop doing such hilariously awful things. It's a pretty longstanding tradition here to laugh at politicians here though, perhaps you're more sensitive to it or something. Our Prime Minister allegedly sexually violated a pig's head! I bet Trump hasn't managed that yet.
From: milko15 Dec 2015 18:20
To: fixrman 39 of 207
Regarding us not making it much of a discussion - there is the grand sum of fuck-all we can do about the US President. Whoever it is will no doubt continue bombing the fuck out of the middle east etc and so on and nothing we can do or say will change that. We have very very limited agency over our own government's behaviour, never mind yours. So in the meantime taking the piss out of it when it's funny is a thing we can do.
From: koswix15 Dec 2015 20:11
To: milko 40 of 207
>>Our Prime Minister allegedly sexually violated a pig's head! I bet Trump hasn't managed that yet.

Tell Trump that Cameron did that and I'm sure he'll reply with a signed affidavit from his butcher to prove that he did it first, and with the whole drove.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)16 Dec 2015 01:41
To: fixrman 41 of 207

> Well, I was always taught that if two people always agree, one is not necessary.

Yup.

moving-couch-couple.jpg

From: graphitone16 Dec 2015 09:08
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 42 of 207
She's not agreeing to that sofa being moved. She's staunchly sitting there in protest that he wants the sofa moving away from the window, presumably to allow more natural light in.

I don't like sofas in windows. People walking by can see the back of your head.

I bet Truffy would have something to say on this matter.

Where is Truffy nowadays?
EDITED: 16 Dec 2015 09:09 by GRAPHITONE
From: Linn (INDYLS)16 Dec 2015 18:15
To: fixrman 43 of 207
Why the personal attacks? Dave was stating his view, he didn't make it personal.

edit - yes, I need to learn read all the thread before I reply. Kos already addressed this. LOL
EDITED: 16 Dec 2015 18:16 by INDYLS
From: koswix16 Dec 2015 19:55
To: Linn (INDYLS) 44 of 207
I'm not sure 'addressed' is the right term... (giggle)
From: Dave!!16 Dec 2015 21:37
To: Linn (INDYLS) 45 of 207
It's what you do when you're trying to defend something. If it's defendable, you calmly and maturely make your point and back it up accordingly. If it's indefensible, you just slander the other person.

Fixrman: It's a simple fact that if you are killed in America by another human, that person is *far* more likely to be a none-Muslim fellow American than a Muslim terrorist.

Since 2001, there have been 3,380 American people killed in terrorist related incidents - and this includes the 2,990 people killed in the September 11th attacks. Alternatively, in the same time there have been 406,496 people killed in gun crime on American soil. So, over a 99% chance of being killed due to American gun crime than in a terrorist incident.

Sorry, but that is outrageous. Yet according to Trump, you should ban all Muslims entering the country and force them all to carry ID, yet it's wrong for Obama to suggest that gun laws should be tightened in any way to try and reduce these fatality rates. According to you, Trump is speaking sense and Obama is the dangerous one?

Do you not see how fucked up that is?
 
From: koswix18 Dec 2015 21:00
To: ALL46 of 207
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A new poll from Public Policy Polling (PPP) found that a surprising number of American voters would support bombing Agrabah.

 

You know — that place that doesn’t exist outside of the lovely, Disney-fied “Aladdin” universe. Yea, that Agrabah.




http://www.mtv.com/news/2690960/aladdin-bombing-fictional-country-agrabah-public-policy-polling/?xrs=_s.fb_main