Home made VMWare

From: Dan (HERMAND)26 Oct 2010 14:46
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 5 of 45

What's your goal? I managed to run an instance of Server 2003 on an old (32bit, AMD 3200 with 2Gb of RAM) XP machine and it was fine. Bootups did take forever, though :D

 

Just depends on whether you're doing it for the sake of messing or whether you're trying to do something on a production scale.

From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)26 Oct 2010 15:03
To: Dan (HERMAND) 6 of 45

That's a very good point that I didn't make clear.
I just wanna tinker with the likes of VMWare, exhange, sql server, active directory, IIS, etc.
I look after about a dozen different environments in work and we don't have a single environment we can tinker with.

From: Dan (HERMAND)26 Oct 2010 15:30
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 7 of 45

In which case RAM is your critical purchase - everything else just needs to be decent. Remember that, in terms of RAM, you ideally want each machine to have it's own. So if you want to have 2 instances of Server 2003 with 1Gb of RAM, you need 3Gb of RAM + however much for your host OS.

 

What's your budget?

 

Personally, if you have the kit, I'd just bung something together and see how you get on and upgrade accordingly.

 

Also, remember, the selling point of VMWare is that any of the Virtual Machines are completely portable and can be chucked on any hardware in the future.

 

Oh, and if you're playing with Server 2003 - I always had the best experience by giving everything a network connection and using RDP from a totally different machine.

 

However, remember that if you want to play with the Enterprise side of VMWare (ESX etc) then I believe you need SCSI and things like that.

EDITED: 26 Oct 2010 15:31 by HERMAND
From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)26 Oct 2010 15:42
To: Dan (HERMAND) 8 of 45

But you can't throw VMWare on to any old PC, can you?
I need specific hardware, and it's usually very very expensive. That's why I was asking if anyone managed some sort of afordable home built piece of kit that I can throw it on to.

 

Budget would be around £400 I think.

From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)26 Oct 2010 15:52
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 9 of 45
Sure you can. I run the player software on a net book. I run the server version on an old desktop. It doesn't take much.
From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)26 Oct 2010 16:05
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 10 of 45

Right, right, lets all try singing from the same song book. Or whatever the expression is.

 

VMWare is just the company. What I am actually talking about is VMWare ESX which is virtualisation software that put the hosted OS directly onto 'bare metal' (as they seem to say).

 

As such, i am pretty certain that I need specfic hardware, as it's all run via a tiny wee Linux OS which only has drivers for certain kit. I think.

 

I should know this shit after being on the course.

From: ANT_THOMAS26 Oct 2010 16:06
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 11 of 45
Well, what's the hardware?
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)26 Oct 2010 16:10
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 12 of 45
Ay, then it very well could use certain hardware. Ill have to xo some checking. Because I can see a big movement to virtual starting already.
From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)26 Oct 2010 16:38
To: ANT_THOMAS 14 of 45
I can use google too, but those articles are pretty old. I was kinda looking for advice from someone who had actually done this or knew about it.
From: Dan (HERMAND)26 Oct 2010 17:44
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 15 of 45
Unless you REEALLLY want to learn about ESX then WMWare Workstation will do everything you need and will run on anything.
From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)26 Oct 2010 17:53
To: Dan (HERMAND) 16 of 45
I really really do. In fact, I want to get qualified in it.
From: Dan (HERMAND)26 Oct 2010 17:59
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 17 of 45

Now you never said that, did you :)

 

As I've never done it then I'm afraid Google is all you'll get out of me!

From: sinkywinky26 Oct 2010 21:37
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 18 of 45
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)26 Oct 2010 23:49
To: Wayne (SCOREZ2000) 19 of 45
I tried vmware and I sorta liked it, but then I tried virtualbox and I liked that a whole lot better. VB seems to work fine for linuxy development servers (lamp, rails), can't say whether vmware might be better for production, or for windoze server. (I do run win 2k /xp /7 desktops on vb fine, though).
EDITED: 26 Oct 2010 23:57 by DSMITHHFX
From: Wayne (SCOREZ2000)27 Oct 2010 08:33
To: sinkywinky 20 of 45
Sinkywinky, that is EXACTLY the shit I'm looking for. Cheers. Hats off to ye!
From: Rich (RICARD00)29 Oct 2010 20:44
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 21 of 45
The movement to VMWare ESX is already huge in most large corporations, I have configured a lot of data centres full of VMWare machines for local authorities, large companies, health authorities and the like.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)29 Oct 2010 21:15
To: Rich (RICARD00) 22 of 45
I started messing with it today. Seems pretty nice.
From: patch29 Oct 2010 22:36
To: Rich (RICARD00) 23 of 45
We put 5 ESX boxes into a public school in Wiltshire about a year ago. They'd already spent several million on a new building, so where they found the money for the network, servers and Cisco phones that we installed, I don't know.
From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)31 Oct 2010 14:39
To: patch 24 of 45

I am just about finished with my storage and VMware proposal for the company I work for, decided to go for vsphere 4 essential plus instead of a full blown vsphere install (and saved £26k in licenses) The essentials plus does pretty much everything (HA, vmotion etc.) but limits you to three hosts, as I never invisage running more than 15 or 20 servers the saving made sense. Oh and I get a nice shiney new Netapp box to play with for network and VM storage :D

 

Hopefully I can get it signed off before the end of the year!