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Scanning a Windows drive from OS X (-me-do)

From: Dave!!19 Jul 2010 14:27

To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 15 of 40

37580.15 In reply to 37580.14

And what commands would you run from the recovery console? As it boots, the MBR etc. is OK. Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there. The recovery console is useful for specific tasks, but just "fixing a version of Windows which blue screens during the boot" isn't really one of them.

Suggesting that switching the drive into another machine and manually copying DLLs around is likely to be faster and less painful than a simple repair installation then a re-installation of a few patches though is just daft!

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From: ANT_THOMAS19 Jul 2010 14:37

To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 16 of 40

37580.16 In reply to 37580.14

What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.

In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.

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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Jul 2010 16:40

To: Dave!! 17 of 40

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>Chkdsk is also unlikely to turn a none-booting Windows installation into a booting installation. It may fix a bad sector, but it won't recover the file which was sitting there.

You've heard of journallng?

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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Jul 2010 16:47

To: ANT_THOMAS 18 of 40

37580.18 In reply to 37580.16

quote:

What Dave!! said basically. I've fixed so many XP installations with a Repair Installation.

In this case he might not have another PC to stick the drive into meaning that option wouldn't be possible.

True. He might not.

OTOH, he has stated he does not have an installer cd...

I've fixed several unbootable Windows installations using both methods. If it works, the recovery console is way faster. If it doesn't, you can still do the other.

Of course the best way is to plan for inevitable Windows failure, and set up two Windows installations on the same pc, one for backup availability and recovery only.

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From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)19 Jul 2010 18:08

To: ALL19 of 40

I have no Windows CD available, but I do have another PC (although like I said, it's a MacBook and it's still under warranty so pulling out the drive isn't really an option) and full access to the borked HDD from OS X. I ran OS X's disk utility repair on the drive and it did something for a while but made no difference. :(

EDITED: 19 Jul 2010 18:09 by OZGUR

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From: ANT_THOMAS19 Jul 2010 18:35

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 20 of 40

37580.20 In reply to 37580.19

Are you able to download and burn an XP CD?

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From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)22 Jul 2010 19:46

To: ALL21 of 40

Right, I'd better actually try to fix this instead of just pretending it doesn't exist...

I might/should be able to get hold of an XP CD and boot from that. I /think/ that both my borked install and the disc are XP Home but if they're not, what will happen? Will an XP Home disc repair an installed XP Pro?

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From: Dave!!22 Jul 2010 20:33

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 22 of 40

37580.22 In reply to 37580.21

No, no it won't.

And to make it even more annoying, you'll need a disk which matches the type of license as well. For Home, you've got OEM and Retail disks. For Pro, you've got OEM, Retail and Volume License disks.

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From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)22 Jul 2010 20:54

To: Dave!! 23 of 40

37580.23 In reply to 37580.22

Hrmm... :/

If I boot from the disc (assuming that all works fine), and the editions don't match, will I be able to install a new copy of Windows, retrieve data and then delete the old one?

Also, how much space does your common or garden XP Home take up. I'm currently at about 1GB free so space will need to be made no matter what, just wondering how much I should budget for.

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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)22 Jul 2010 23:59

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 24 of 40

37580.24 In reply to 37580.23

>I'm currently at about 1GB free so space will need to be made no matter what, just wondering how much I should budget for.

I'm thinking you might be borked right there, and you may as well salvage whatever data and do a clean reinstall. On a bigger disk. For xp pro I'd budget minimum 10G, and maybe 20-30G if you're putting all your apps, games etc on there as well.

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From: koswix23 Jul 2010 00:03

To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 25 of 40

37580.25 In reply to 37580.24

Are you a mental?

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From: ANT_THOMAS23 Jul 2010 00:03

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 26 of 40

37580.26 In reply to 37580.23

To carry on from what Smitthy has said, you'll probably need more than 1GB free but can't you just copy all the stuff you want/need to the OSX partition (if there's enough space) and just start from fresh on the XP partition? Or something like that, maybe use an external hard drive if you have or can get hold of one!

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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)23 Jul 2010 01:06

To: ANT_THOMAS 27 of 40

37580.27 In reply to 37580.26

It could even be a swap space/virtual memory issue (coupled with disk fragmentation), & if he freed up another couple of gigs, depending on how much physical memory is in the machine, it might become bootable again.

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From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)23 Jul 2010 01:34

To: ALL28 of 40

Unfortunately when I (got my flatmate to) set up Boot Camp I didn't envision using it very often so I only put aside 30 of my 150 Gubs. I could quite easily transfer it to OS X partition, my PC or external drive but I'd worry about losing setup stuff because that's the kind of thing I worry about.

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From: Manthorp23 Jul 2010 06:32

To: koswix 29 of 40

37580.29 In reply to 37580.25

Seems a bit harsh. Especially coming from you.

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From: koswix23 Jul 2010 08:29

To: Manthorp 30 of 40

37580.30 In reply to 37580.29

:C

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From: Matt23 Jul 2010 09:50

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 31 of 40

37580.31 In reply to 37580.28

quote: MacRumours Forums

Funny you mention this. I used a tool called Winclone (a Mac app designed for cloning Windows partitions and restoring them) to perform exactly this procedure (increase Boot Camp partition size without reinstalling Windows). You can't do it in Disk Utility, but it's really not that hard.

1. Convert your Windows partition to NTFS, if it isn't already
2. Clone the partition (with Winclone) to an external drive
3. Using Boot Camp Assistant, delete the old Windows partition
4. Relaunch it and create a new, larger partition
5. Cancel the install when prompted (choose Quit and Install Later)
6. Restore the clone you made earlier to the new, larger partition

Then find out which edition and license of Windows you have and perform a repair install. Huzzah.

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From: koswix23 Jul 2010 10:03

To: Matt 32 of 40

37580.32 In reply to 37580.31

'ang on, if it's home he can't use NTFS, can he?

EDIT: Hmm, apparently he can. Must have been thinking about encryption :$

EDITED: 23 Jul 2010 10:17 by KOSWIX

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From: ANT_THOMAS23 Jul 2010 10:45

To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) 33 of 40

37580.33 In reply to 37580.28

So what you're saying is you really don't want to start from scratch with a fresh XP install?

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From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)23 Jul 2010 11:43

To: ANT_THOMAS 34 of 40

37580.34 In reply to 37580.33

Well I'd rather not, but if it's the only way then I'll go for it. I might use the WinClone thing or just copy all my stuff over to my PC and install a fresh Windows.

Either way, I'm probably going to do it slowly. I have the lazies.

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