Election Debates

From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)15 Apr 2010 21:28
To: ALL1 of 64
Anyone watching?

They're both giving Clegg way too much airtime. Cameron even addressed a question directly at him, which was fucking idiocy. Even worse, Clegg answered it. They should both be pretending he doesn't exist.

Anyway, Brown's coming across surprisingly well. Cameron seems to be coming across worst.
From: Mouse15 Apr 2010 21:30
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 2 of 64
I've decided I'm going entirely on personality for this election. Clegg wins.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)15 Apr 2010 21:32
To: Mouse 3 of 64
(giggle)

Aye.
From: Mikee15 Apr 2010 21:47
To: ALL4 of 64

I don't know nothing about politics, but I've watched this for shits and giggles.

 

My views:

 

Nick = Seems more genuine than the other two, but keeps repeating himself and he's boring me. He's too weak!

 

David = Utter dick. Really don't like him. I hate his face and I hate the way he argues. He's a smug shit and he has too much make-up on.

 

Gordon = Pretty awesome. He has cheeky little smiles and he doesn't come across as a cock. Girlfriend (who's a teacher) says that he's done a reet good job with education, and she's usually right about things.

From: koswix15 Apr 2010 21:48
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 5 of 64

Listening to bits of it on the radio, taping the show to watch later :$

 

Answer my facebook message, cunt :@

From: koswix15 Apr 2010 21:49
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 6 of 64

Stole this off Twitter:

 

The election as a relationship: Labour, the abusive partner that you know you should leave but just can't bring yourself to do it. The Torries, the ex that's hurt you in the past. The Lib Dems, the friend that you really like, but just don't fancy.

From: Mouse15 Apr 2010 21:51
To: ALL7 of 64
I've never started a Twitter trend before, help me -> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wtilb
From: koswix15 Apr 2010 21:54
To: Mouse 8 of 64
Should it not be wtild? :$
From: william15 Apr 2010 21:56
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 9 of 64
Perhaps it doesn't matter for Cameron.

If Clegg wins votes then most will come from Labour anyway.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)15 Apr 2010 22:00
To: william 10 of 64
I know that's the received wisdom but I'm not sure it's actually true.
From: ANT_THOMAS15 Apr 2010 22:16
To: ALL11 of 64
Bollocks, I forgot to watch or record. I'll have to wait for it to appear on the TheBox.
From: Mouse15 Apr 2010 22:21
To: koswix 12 of 64

:$

 

http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wtild

 

Not very good at this

From: william15 Apr 2010 22:21
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 13 of 64
I know.


It's much closer to being a reflection of my fears.


Much though I loathe the current leadership of the Labour party.
From: koswix15 Apr 2010 23:03
To: ALL14 of 64

Clegg 'won'. Does he get a prize?

 

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Sky-News-Instant-Leaders-Debate-Poll-With-Fizzback-Panel-Texts-Feedback-For-Faster-Results/Article/201004315603598?f=rss

 


Q: Who will be Chancellor of the Exchequer if Labour win the election?
A: Vince Cable

 

(fail)

From: Radio16 Apr 2010 09:32
To: koswix 15 of 64

I dunno about a prize but he'll almost certainly get more votes. Whether they count for anything is still unknown.
From what I've heard, the first few percentage swing points towards the Lib Dems will actually help Labour, as they'll be from Tory seats. As the swing becomes more pronounced, the model says that Labour will start worrying, places like Liverpool which are historic Labour safe seats are suddenly under threat.
Even with that though, unless its some monumental shift, the 'best' result for the Lib Dems will be a hung parliament. In that case, Brown stays on as Prime Minister and is given the chance to try and construct a government, likely by forming agreements with other parties. You saw that last night with the obvious difference in Brown's stance between Cameron and Clegg, he was effectively wooing Clegg in comparison.

 

I already know that my vote won't count though. I'm voting Lib Dem, but in a Tory majority of over 10k, that would have to be some serious swing to cause a change.

From: Dave!!16 Apr 2010 09:56
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 16 of 64

Clegg did come across very well I thought. One of the biggest reasons was that he seemed to be able to back up his claims with a bit more substance than the other 2.

 

Brown came across surprisingly well, although this may just have been because I had such low expectations for him. Unfortunately, any chance Labour had of getting my vote disappeared when they forced the Mandybill through the wash-up period of parliament instead of properly debating it.

 

Cameron came across fairly poorly. He kept on blabbering on about "waste", but was only able to quote a couple of fairly tame examples of this. Sure canning the 7% pay rise for NHS managers is a good idea, but it's not going to magically result in billions of pounds of savings. Waste is only waste once you've identified it and explained exactly how you'd save the money. Until then, it's just an empty and substance-less word.

 

I was leaning in favour of Lib Dem before seeing this debate (I've explained my anti-Labour stance, and our Tory candidate lives over 50 miles away from my town for a start!). This debate has just enhanced that lean.

EDITED: 16 Apr 2010 09:57 by DAVE!!
From: Radio16 Apr 2010 10:08
To: Dave!! 17 of 64

You've just reminded me about the most annoying thing about Cameron from last night.
The only real concrete example of waste that he identified was the 7% payrise for NHS managers, but then he went on to say that the only public service he was protecting was the NHS, and that he'd actually be increasing the contributions in real-term over the life of the parliament.

From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)16 Apr 2010 10:36
To: Dave!! 18 of 64
Aye, exactly the same for me really.
From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)16 Apr 2010 12:19
To: Dave!! 19 of 64
quote: Dave!!
empty and substance-less


Pretty much like the Tory party themselves? I hate the fact that David Cameron (or any politician) can get by on being 'charismatic' (at least in some people's eyes) and not by showing any actual integrity, intelligence or leadership qualities.

I liked the chancellor debate because if you look at the three of them and think "who puts the most effort into their apearance?" you also get the likely answer to "who puts the least amount of effort into actually working?" (Darling's anomalous eyebrows notwithstanding).
From: Jo (JELLS)16 Apr 2010 14:37
To: Radio 20 of 64
quote:
Even with that though, unless its some monumental shift, the 'best' result for the Lib Dems will be a hung parliament. In that case, Brown stays on as Prime Minister


Even if the Tories end up with more seats than Labour?