Yeah it's not a million miles away from just bundling DLLs in a directory. We'll go to great lengths to avoid the thing Linux (and BSD) is really good at and everything else is bad at: Dynnamic linking.

Yeah if I were installing nextcloud I'd go with a docker or whatever too. Anything that requires a database and a web server is a pain in the arse. It *shouldn't* be a pain in the arse, I think we fucked up somewhere and containers are a dreadful solution to the problem. But for now, it's easy and it works.

I think the need for a kinda explicit system layer comes with USB, wifi and having multiple devices. Hardware was less transient in the past so things didn't need handling in a dynamic way, really. And you didn't want to take your "account" or whatever elsewhere.

My OS will be written in 100% bash. And it'll be called Dim. Dim isn't Minix.


 

Yes, it's a different world now, and especially with the web as he said in the talk. 

Database, web server, maybe a dash of webdav and that's a recipe for something complicated that shouldn't be. I suppose it's because there are so many dependent components. I lose count of the number of times I've followed a script to install something and broken down because PHP is out of date, or 'command not found' or a folder isn't where it should be because it all changed 6 months ago. Or something. 

Anyway, Dim. That's a properly recursive acronym.

 

Love bash. Probably because it's as far as my coding abilities stretch these days.

I love rexx, although I have absolutely no way to use it these days. May as well learn python.

Bash's syntax is objectively horrible. But I kinda love that. I enjoy how weird and inconsistent it is. Cos it's just something that's gown organically over time.

But what I *really* love about bash scripting is just stringing standard commands together to do stuff. Not having to worry about libraries or frameworks or language-specific package managers.

I'm absolutely done with frameworks and languages that have their own package managers. It's always horrible.

The cool kids are into Lisp these days. The kids that are too cool for python/rust/go.

Some people should never be allowed to teach or offer tutorials  :'-D