Aww, no, the only ones who've remained my Steam friend for all these years are Linn and PsychoGeezer. Gawd bless 'em.

Voltane, JonCooper and Ricardo posted in "I miss you guys", though only Voltane gave us an update from a quick re-read (I may have missed something from the others).

Ricardo was in fairly regular contact through the WhatsApp that spawned from the google hangout some of us were in (you included, it was supposed to close down as a service so we moved on, but for some reason it's still going even now), but he decided to leave the WhatsApp after a bit.

You didn't ask, but Ken was in WhatsApp with us until he decided it was EVIL and left for Signal.  Most of us are in there too, but we barely speak there.

Mouse is still in the WhatsApp, I don't know what he'd want me to tell you as we're all at the point where we know detailed stuff about each other's lives.  He's happy and doing well in his career.  I'll ask him to come and say hello.

The last time I tried to stalk Boff, he was doing clever things as a Uni lecturer.

I always found the Chrises hard to keep track of mentally, the one called Chrisssssss is in the WhatsApp and I think he's the same one I used to speak with on MSN the most.  Aside from you and Jay that is.

Izziwizzi is one of the people that I merge into other people too, did he come back as truffy, or was that someone else?  If the latter, who was it that changed their name?  Was Izzi called James?

You should buy us both everything from our wishlists.

Izzi was James, yeah. Truffy is a different person. Did he say hello in the miss you thread?

Truffy was MR BASTARD. Truffy had been his nickname from the PC Pro forum site and later Delphi forums. I quite liked his posts, but I think he began to find me genuinely irritating (eg discussions of U2 Vs Wizzard). Which is OK, because I can be irritating. No idea what he's up to these days.

I don't think either did, but I'm saying that with only a small amount of confidence.

Alright gangster. ♥️

"Steve? Is fucksocks still a thing?"

He's called Felix nowadays, I believe! And seems to update Facebook quite a bit. I think he was and probably still is working for github? And making quite dramatic home improvements (and/or commissioning builders to do it)

Izziwizzi/James I'd love to hear from, me and Tina did that tour from SF to Vegas to Grand Canyon to LA to SF with him, then he went around the edge of the USA north-> east -> south from there (in a classic Mustang for at least some of it). Then he ended up crewing sailing boats far afield and I think that was the last I heard and that was aaages ago.

Ricardo I still speak to here and there because his company does a fair bit of work for the company I work for. You can also see him on Instagram/Strava going for runs in teh countryside.

I've got a feeling Truffy got huffy with us when he went a bit right-wing/pre-brexit but could definitely be misremembering. JonCooper didn't go noticeably right-wing particularly but definitely went brexit (as did much of the south-west, I suppose) and I seem to remember that being a bit of a catalyst for ditching here too. Anyway, I hope they're both well. What a stupid mess of a thing brexit is and was no matter how you feel about the EU.

TAK is some sort of university professor living in the countryside.

Edd was doing internet startup things and going to gigs and taking gameboy camera photos last I spoke to him (I bumped into him in central London in the street!) but that was a good few years ago now. I wonder what's up these days, and I would bet on gameboy camera groups as the place to stalk him.

JohnGTI goes for runs too albeit I think more in the vein of city half-marathons than the countryside and still does teaching I think and his kids are all growing up - he's another facebooker so that's where I've seen that.

Andee/Tribal was doing some work at Facebook at some point, not sure if he still is but it seemed of the really-rather-successful variety and I think he got married and had child(ren) too.

Rowan got married to a Romanian lady and I don't think I know anything else beyond that.

I think that's all I got in this current memory dump but I'm sure there's much more in there somewhere! I don't think I'm 'in' on these MSN/Whatsapp/Signal groups and it's probably a good thing as I don't need more procrastination distraction quite frankly. I'm 'on' Facebook, never post but leave it enabled on one device as my family all use it to some extent, and there's quite a few tehpeople on there at least occasionally.

I have to say I miss Mr. Bastard's bromides of bitterness.

Ahreet! 

How many guitars have you sold since we last spoke? And how many have you bought?

Sulkpot was always good for a pithy Conservative take. He was a smart one and I miss him. Been absent for a very long time though.

I've stopped doing that shit now because guitars are fucking boring.

Well that's a relief.

How many Flash based websites have you made since we last spoke? :Y

I stopped making websites after I realised it was boring.

(I miss flash though. It was so easy to whip up little toys that were graphics + code. You could *draw right there in the thing* and then put *code in the drawing* and it would *do things*. Nothing else works like that.)

Nobody uses websites anymore anyway.

I'm in the wrong thread aren't I?

You can do a hell of a lot with javascript if you've a mind to (which is why noscript etc). Also it doesn't need a plugin to view it.

Yeah, I tried that for a while. And Love2d and Python + PyGame and others. It's not the same though. It was that ability to put the code "in" the drawings which enabled me to make what was in my imagination without stalling.

Reminds me of another Macromedia product, Freehand. Adobe's catch and kill.