Yeah, I love all that stuff in 2012. And I even liked or enjoyed most of the characters we follow.

Moonfall has more, and more hyperbolic, earth-being-fucked up stuff. Makes 2012 look tame in comparison. But the characters were for me not enjoyable. And the alien stuff towards the end is *very silly*. I'd still way watch it properly, but only if you're in the mood for that kind of dumbness.

Haven't seen Independence Day 2. Enjoyed the first but assumed the second would be bad. I'll give it a watch.

Bloody hell, don't listen to me. Independence day 2 is terrible. Then again, if we're in that irresponsible space where we can flick from one thing to another, some of the scenes are fun.

Oh they're all terrible. But enjoyable. I'm sure Moonfall is worse. 2012 and Independence Day you can kinda treat as almost plausible if you switch parts of your brain off. Moonfall is just straight up silly.