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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)27 Aug 2022 17:03
To: william (WILLIAMA) 4 of 20
While trying to convert a ppc mac back from linux to OSX yesterday, I checked the hdd mfgs site for master-slave pin jumper config and there was a notice the Seagate model needed a firmware update. It transpired that the updater (which has to be installed via Windows) actually reboots into tinycore linux, with grub bootloader!
From: william (WILLIAMA)27 Aug 2022 17:44
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 5 of 20
Blimey. On the drive itself? And what happens after the update; is it left there? 
From: william (WILLIAMA)27 Aug 2022 17:46
To: william (WILLIAMA) 6 of 20
Also, blimey, master/slave jumpers! Did you need WFWG or would 95 do?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)28 Aug 2022 17:06
To: william (WILLIAMA) 7 of 20
No, it's an exe you download. I guess it installs a virtual disc on spare hdd space, repoints the mbr at it or something along those lines?



https://www.seagate.com/ca/en/support/kb/firmware-update-utility-instructions-and-faq-004559en/
From: william (WILLIAMA)28 Aug 2022 20:50
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 8 of 20
So, presumably, it deletes the install partition when it's done its upgrade. Otherwise it's a wonderful vector for some sort of attack. Or maybe not. Those were innocent times.

 
From: william (WILLIAMA)28 Aug 2022 21:01
To: william (WILLIAMA) 9 of 20
ooh, and singing the praises of Linux, I managed to fill my root drive by accident today*, and only realised when VNC stopped working. Spent nearly 3 hours finding out. My fault but...

*instead of the usb drives that I meant to fill
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)29 Aug 2022 10:25
To: william (WILLIAMA) 10 of 20
Never mind linux, I am getting very cross with the Apple installers that are pinned to the hardware model, and furthermore become unbootable if you perchance to mount the iso to have a look before burning a dvd. I guess they were terrified of clones, even though that was Windows preferred path to world domination.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)29 Aug 2022 10:41
To: william (WILLIAMA) 11 of 20
Meaning you were running as root? Since regular users are supposed to be prevented from being able to fill it...
EDITED: 29 Aug 2022 10:42 by BOUGHTONP
From: william (WILLIAMA)29 Aug 2022 13:02
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 12 of 20
Hangs head in shame. Yes.

In my defence, almost EVERY online tutorial, guide, instruction, manual, and query-reply prefaces almost EVERY linux command with sudo. 

I know it's a feeble defence.

 
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)29 Aug 2022 20:23
To: ALL13 of 20
To continue this pointless and unappreciated saga, it turns out the ppc supports hdd cable select ... one down. Also, if I reformat the drives to Apple Partition Format (or some such), it might have a snowball's chance in hell of recognizing them. I have an OS 9.2 installer that does boot, presumably from there I would be able to also install OSX (which installers currently boot into a kernel panic). Onward.
From: william (WILLIAMA)30 Aug 2022 15:00
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 14 of 20
Ah yes. Kernel panic, in the library, with a revolver. I remember seeing kernel panic a lot a few years ago when I was recompiling to keep up with daily releases of SUSE. I'm not altogether sure I remember why I was doing that, but there was probably a really stupid reason.

Anyway, you're saying you aim to install 9.2 first and then upgrade to OSX? If it's a hardware incompatibility, what's the odds it will just panic at that stage?
EDITED: 30 Aug 2022 15:00 by WILLIAMA
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)30 Aug 2022 15:33
To: william (WILLIAMA) 15 of 20
Fairly high, but nothing to lose by trying it.
From: william (WILLIAMA)30 Aug 2022 16:05
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 16 of 20
Absolutely.

Have you seen any of Louis Rossman's stuff on Youtube? I mean his video's of Apple repairs are fun in a geeky, wish-I-could-do-that, kind of way, but his rants against dirty little proprietory tricks and pro right-to-repair are interesting.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 2 Sep 2022 13:27
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 17 of 20
Whelp, after doing that the OSX installer DVD booted right up without complaint, and is installing as we speak. Fingers crossed  :-O

Dang. Interestingly the installer booted from the kernel panic dvd, then died partway through. After that one time, it's been kp every try. The os9.02 installer I had on hand was producing a click-o-death, so now I'm dl a 9.2.2 'universal drag-and-drop' installer iso from here https://www.macintoshrepository.org, presumably [/hopefully] a tad more compatible with this mofo beast  :-{)
EDITED: 2 Sep 2022 15:27 by DSMITHHFX
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 2 Sep 2022 13:32
To: william (WILLIAMA) 18 of 20
No, haven't seen it. I hate watching videos for tech information, text + pictures please. I once spent some few hours trying to make a virtualized hackintosh (for lack of suitable hardware) but no joy.
From: william (WILLIAMA) 2 Sep 2022 15:32
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 19 of 20
He's not exactly offering training information, just showing repairs in progress, sometimes using a microscope for filming and chatting through what he's doing. He says as much about Apple design, strengths and weaknesses as anything. He also demonstrates how many of the repairs are relatively easy for a skilled technician, and bemoans the fact that Apple will not attempt the repairs while at the same time working to put him out of business. They've even taken legal action against him to stop him obtaining parts.

Anyhoo, the point is that just as they have strategies that stop, or at least greatly inconvenience you, when you are recommissioning your Power PCs, so they also have strategies to stop you repairing your own property.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 2 Sep 2022 17:12
To: william (WILLIAMA) 20 of 20
This PPC has been recommissioned for the landfill.