Lockdown fiddling

From: ANT_THOMAS 7 May 2020 15:25
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 58 of 76
Mentioned it earlier in thread, I did a do-release-upgrade a bit back on my ubuntu server. Never again. Time consuming and too many issues. Fresh next time.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 7 May 2020 15:37
To: ANT_THOMAS 59 of 76
I did Fedora 27-28 a coupla years ago and don't recall any problems or absurd slowness, but this (my 'new' pc) has an Athlon x4 950 and had 16G (32 now).

I know from some virtualbox installs that recent Fedoras really don't get along well with constrained memory. The FC32 kernel has something called EarlyOOM which might help it (the old pc) cope better.

Anyhoo it's done and seems to be working well. Running it from vnc on Windows 7 atm, no obvious speed/memory issues from the old pc (obviously slower than the new).

Nice to finally see GIMP 2.0 in action.
EDITED: 7 May 2020 15:40 by DSMITHHFX
From: william (WILLIAMA) 7 May 2020 16:09
To: ANT_THOMAS 60 of 76
Almost done.

I went for a simple set up in the end: latest Raspbian with Samba. I've decided to reproduce what I have on my Windows Plex box where the Plex libraries and backup folders are copied overnight to duplicate drives. The backup folders will be moved to the Pi box. If the whole lot blows up I'm stuffed, but it's far more likely that a single drive will fail. I use robocopy on windows and an rsync cron job on Raspbian should be pretty similar.

The actual physical build is always more fiddly and troublesome than anticipated. I could just connect everything up and hide it under a desk, but then I thought I could stick it on a board. Then I found a nice biscuit tin. That's when I discovered that none of the cables were as flexible and forgiving as I'd hoped and the tin need ventilating which means putting grommets onto holes and the only ones I have left are the sealed type. Then how to mount the drives etc. etc. 

But almost done. I'll stick a picture up when I've finished.
From: ANT_THOMAS 7 May 2020 16:09
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 61 of 76
Have you had a look at Glimpse? (GIMP fork)
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 7 May 2020 17:20
To: ANT_THOMAS 62 of 76
Never heard of it.

 
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 7 May 2020 18:19
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 63 of 76
Re-branded GIMP with bugs added, not worth wasting time on.

</TWR>

From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 7 May 2020 22:25
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 64 of 76
That was my take.
From: ANT_THOMAS 8 May 2020 08:35
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 65 of 76
Think there's any future in it? Seemed like a good attempt to make it more user friendly and get away from the neckbeard weirdos who insist on it being called GIMP.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 8 May 2020 10:23
To: ANT_THOMAS 66 of 76
> get away from the neckbeard weirdos who insist on it being called GIMP.

And into the embrace of the blustering snowflakes who want everyone swathed in bubblewrap? ¬_¬


Name calling is unconstructive, and rarely the best way to build collaboration.

As it stands, I doubt the future of a four person project that wants to both extend a complex application and rewrite it from scratch at the same time, and who say they want a better UI, but almost a year in and... well, what they've presented would likely get a U grade at school.

From: ANT_THOMAS 8 May 2020 11:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 67 of 76
Or in the pursuit of more widespread adoption, and then hopefully more contribution as a result, you'd look to change the name wouldn't you?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 8 May 2020 11:16
To: ANT_THOMAS 68 of 76
I like WIMP: Wussy Inconsequential Meaningless Pout

Seriously though, it's like all those reskinned and renamed 'buntu's masquerading as independent DEs (looking at you MINT).
EDITED: 8 May 2020 11:21 by DSMITHHFX
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 8 May 2020 18:20
To: ANT_THOMAS 69 of 76
The barriers to GIMP adoption are far deeper than the name, as proven by the popularity of Seashore and GimPhoto.

Were I involved with the project, I'd consider a rebrand at the next major release for the sole reason of it being a shit name, and only if the new name was good enough to justify the change and was ready to be accompanied by significant already realised improvements.

I would not fork the code, give it an even shitter name, and waste time replacing all references to a project that isn't going away.

EDITED: 8 May 2020 18:22 by BOUGHTONP
From: william (WILLIAMA)12 May 2020 14:35
To: ANT_THOMAS 70 of 76
There. Not the neatest bit of work I've ever done. The step drill tore the tin so I had to use a Dremel to cut a flap out for the cables (haven't fitted a trim on the edges yet). Not sure how I'm going to cut ventilation holes in the lid either.
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From: ANT_THOMAS12 May 2020 21:34
To: william (WILLIAMA) 71 of 76
Neat!

I'm curious about those hard drive caddies?
From: william (WILLIAMA)12 May 2020 21:47
To: ANT_THOMAS 72 of 76
I found these a while back. They're brilliant -  and dirt cheap on eBay. I bought a load for 99p each. The drive just snaps into the plastic adaptor and then they're 3.5" bay sized. I used them here because they provide a bit of space for air flow and can be stuck together with sticky foam fixers. Here's a link on eBay, but I think you can get them on Amazon (for a bit more £) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143478268428
EDITED: 12 May 2020 21:47 by WILLIAMA
From: ANT_THOMAS13 May 2020 07:58
To: william (WILLIAMA) 73 of 76
Ahh, I thought they were 3.5" for some reason. Very useful though.

I think I 3D printed a 2 x 2.5" to 3.5" caddy a while ago when I couldn't be bothered waiting for shipping and wanted to fit some SSDs RIGHT NOW.
From: william (WILLIAMA)13 May 2020 08:07
To: william (WILLIAMA) 74 of 76
One thing on the Pi4 NAS setup: don't be a knob like me and format the NAS drives as NTFS. Raspbian has enough clevers to let it work just fine and is too polite to mention anything, but you will lose two thirds of your network speed and it will be generally much, much, slower, so that backups, big copy-jobs etc. take forever.
From: ANT_THOMAS13 May 2020 08:14
To: william (WILLIAMA) 75 of 76
exFAT or ext4?
From: william (WILLIAMA)13 May 2020 11:36
To: ANT_THOMAS 76 of 76
Well, right now I'm changing them to ext4.