those side button are not in a good place.

I actually like them. The forward button is right under by my thumb and the back button is only a little stretch away.

I've got buttons on the right side too now. They are not so easy to use. If I hold the mouse in a certain way I can press the forward (currently DPI) button with the inside of my next-to-my-pinky finger. The back button (show desktop) is not so easy to press though. Not that that is really what they are for anyway, they're for switching between left and right handed ambidextrousness.

I got one of these ambidextrous mice, which is great for my left handedness. It's quite light and responsive and has the right amount of buttons without being stupid.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROCCAT-ROC-11-502-Performance-Right-Hand-Programmable/dp/B016A9XAXS/ref=pd_cp_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B016A9XAXS&pd_rd_r=5ed43404-d203-11e8-83a4-a3b41cbed5db&pd_rd_w=xWxJz&pd_rd_wg=3jfpv&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=0ca7ef78-a9c4-4935-a8ff-59221f1ded3e&pf_rd_r=HXZFCGYS8N6C4PRDT8Y1&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=HXZFCGYS8N6C4PRDT8Y1

 

what does the dpi button do? It looks like it would be hard for me to hold the mouse without accidentally toggling the buttons, like how I'm forever hitting the cAPS LOCK by mistake (I actually disabled it on my mac kb at work)

Heh, whereas I get really frustrated with Java insisting I tell it shit it already knows and/or doesn't need to know.

If C#/Java allowed you to start with basic structures whilst doing rapid prototyping/iterations, and then later solidify them into appropriate objects/classes they'd be far more useful.

DPI buttons are for changing cursor sensitivity (speed) without going into software - usually between a few customisable presets.

So if you do graphics and want to switch from regular/high setting to a lower setting for greater control.

Also handy when watching videos, you can set it to super low so that knocking the desk doesn't make the mouse move slightly and bring up the control panel.

Or if you need to let one of those people that can't use a mouse without moving their hand and arm loads use it.

Wow, that's an interesting/ugly looking thing :D It says 12 buttons on that Amazon page but I can only count 10. Which 2 am I missing?

It changes the DPI. Currently 1200/2500. The other side was set to back/forward too, but I changed it to DPI. There is also a DPI button on the bottom of the mouse. Not the most useful place. I don't really change DPI though so might change the side button to something more useful.

How do you accidentally press THE CAPS BUTTON!? Are Mac keyboards shit?

Oh yeah, with Java you definitely need to type lots more to do things than other languages. I do like some of the features of other languages that make it quicker to do things.

One of the systems I support in work uses Ruby on Rails for the front end. I was trying to change something on the controller to sort some data returned to the browser and just couldn't work out the data type that was being returned from the HTTP call to a back end. Maybe just my lack of experience with Ruby, but at least Java would specify the type and make it easier to work out what's going on.

Sometimes I forget I can't touch-type.

Do you touch type with caps instead of shift? I've seen a lot of people doing that. Touch typing is something that I've been meaning to learn for years but never got around to doing.

It is nice and comfortable. There are 12 buttons, I think the two you're missing are either side of the main left and right butons, they're not obvious, but damned useful in gaming. That said, you lose two of the side buttons, depending on your handedness. 'Cos it's ambidextrous they include thumbs buttons on both sides of the mouse.

I don't really have any sort of technique, I just punch my fingers blindly at the keyboard relying on 'muscle memory' (which works surprisingly well for passwords, and not much else), and the caps lock just gets in my way. WHO EVEN FUCKING USES CAPS LOCK? Oh.

Old(er) Apple desktop keyboards are actually top drawer, certainly way better than what came bundled with pcs. It's the new, 'chiclet' style keyboards that suck donkeys. Apple's mice have always, always sucked.

This is the 10 that I can see.

 :-$ Feck it all, I miscounted.

The extra two 'buttons' that are advertised are scroll forward and scroll backward on the wheel. To be fair, they can be assigned to be anything else.

SCROLL IS NOT BUTTONS! :@

I know, Peter. I know.  :-/


Once nice feature is a shift button of sorts, Roccat call it an 'easy shift'. Hold that button down and the rest of the buttons do other things; mine's configured for a volume raiser and lowerer and music track forward and backwarder. But again, they can be set to pretty much anything, keys, macros, timers etc.

 

Mine has shift along with three different modes - allowing six configurations total - but I already have enough controls for play/pause, back, forwards, vol up, vol down, page up, page down, end, alt, tab, next track, and dpi all in one mode so I've not bothered with it.

These mice are stupidly complicated, like a double-neck guitar.

I played Portal with this the other night. Forgot how short that game is. Still great fun though. It was super, and nice having no wires in the way.

Doom caused some problems though. Holding down the RMB for the weapon's secondary mode and pressing LMB to fire causes the buttons to rub. It's a known problem on the mouse and a lot of people have either sent it back or sanded the buttons a tiny bit so they don't rub.

Also, as Pete said: Scroll wheel counted as buttons :O :O :O What!?