Sure, but I'm far too lazy to do that and I'd just end up keeping both :$

So far I've worked out that I want at least an i5-8400, that's a little over twice as fast as my current i5-4200m. Pretty sure I'm going to go with a consumer graphics card so I can play Civ games in between working....

I think Nvidia are announcing new cards on Monday so that could mean price drops on older stuff?

You may have already watched it



Simple explanation and benchmarks.
Probably still means spending £££ though.

"The sweet spot seems to be the relatively affordable P4000..."

*googles*


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:'D I did the same.
It's the P1000 vs others for 3D/CAD stuff that is more interesting.

Yeah, the P100 is about £350 roughly  but stonks all over the consumer cards. Wonder how well it handles Civ...

Solidworks would definitely benefit from teh Quadro, even the cheap one over a consumer card.

However as for the time being I'm predominately going to be using Fusion 360, which is DirectX based, I won't really see or need that benefit. Think I'll go for a Geforce card for now and upgrade/change to Quadro if and when I need to.

Now... what's the best Geforce bang for buck, and how much will that change on Monday when they announce the new cards?

Despite saying I was going to wait for price drops etc., I ordered an xps system off Dell outlet. It had sufficient discount (I hope) to counter any likely price drops in the near future, and I get to have it now (well, 5th of September) instead.

Core i7 8700, 16 gbtbh, gtx 1060, one of them plug into the board SSD thingies and a 2tb proper drive.

The CPU is, apparently, 130% faster than my current laptop, and the GPU is similarly more advance. Hopefully it'll do me for the next decade :'D


*Cue massive price drop on everything on 4th of September*

> one of them plug into the board SSD thingies?

An m.2?

I considered one of those but the connector being underneath the motherboard was too much faff so I got a regular 2.5" SATA. Just realised I'm not sure if there's anything in the case to mount it though, probably need a 3.5" bracket. Arse.

Yeah an m.2 thingie. No idea where the connector is but it's a prebuilt system so I don't care :D

Just use duct tape to put a 2.5inch drive in a 3.5inch slot. Works every time.

Why bother with that? Just leave it dangling on the bottom of the case like I did.

I checked online, it's a Jonsbo U2 Mini-ITX case, and the drive bays are literally just screw holes in the bottom (or side) of the chassis...

So, no brackets, tape, nor dangling necessary. :)

Screws? Why bother with that. Just plug it in and leave it hanging somewhere :)

Not seen drives held in directly to the case before.

Since mine has a rather large passive cooling coil in the middle, and the cables are long enough that it'd be on the floor anyway, screwing it in place means no need to worry about it getting knocked by clumsy oaf cleaners.

Apparently the dell XPS tower has that for expansion bays, too. Also a fancy hinged PSU tray. But also just read that the CPU is soldered, so no upgrading that later. Good job I went for the beefiest one I could :D

This is a tower? Fucking hell.

Underneath the motherboard? That's strange! I have an M2 SSD on mine and the connector is on top. Fitting the drive was no more difficult than installing a PCIe card. Probably easier than a SATA one actually as only one screw is required, and no cabling.

Yeah, and it wasn't obvious when I was first looking at the manual diagram - I was like "Huh? It can't be there, that's where the SATA cable connects, it wouldn't fit", before realising it was just not well labelled.

Guess it's because Mini-ITX has limited space, and putting it next to the SATA but on the reverse is probably the most efficient layout - a quick search shows other Mini-ITX boards also have it on the back.

Had the connector been more conveniently accessible I probably would have gone for m.2, but SSD will be good enough, and (once I've got it setup) I can remove the 3.5" HDD and will have absolutely no moving parts. Hooray! :D

Mine just sits under my desk upstairs so not usually worried too much about anyone banging it. That's why I have a spinny disk sitting in top on my DVD drive (which is screwed in) and the SSD dangling around the bottom of the case.