PC-me-do

From: koswix24 Aug 2018 22:15
To: ALL16 of 36
Despite saying I was going to wait for price drops etc., I ordered an xps system off Dell outlet. It had sufficient discount (I hope) to counter any likely price drops in the near future, and I get to have it now (well, 5th of September) instead.

Core i7 8700, 16 gbtbh, gtx 1060, one of them plug into the board SSD thingies and a 2tb proper drive.

The CPU is, apparently, 130% faster than my current laptop, and the GPU is similarly more advance. Hopefully it'll do me for the next decade :'D


*Cue massive price drop on everything on 4th of September*
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Aug 2018 22:32
To: koswix 17 of 36
> one of them plug into the board SSD thingies?

An m.2?

I considered one of those but the connector being underneath the motherboard was too much faff so I got a regular 2.5" SATA. Just realised I'm not sure if there's anything in the case to mount it though, probably need a 3.5" bracket. Arse.

From: koswix25 Aug 2018 09:12
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 18 of 36
Yeah an m.2 thingie. No idea where the connector is but it's a prebuilt system so I don't care :D

Just use duct tape to put a 2.5inch drive in a 3.5inch slot. Works every time.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)25 Aug 2018 09:17
To: koswix 19 of 36
Why bother with that? Just leave it dangling on the bottom of the case like I did.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)25 Aug 2018 15:26
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 20 of 36
I checked online, it's a Jonsbo U2 Mini-ITX case, and the drive bays are literally just screw holes in the bottom (or side) of the chassis...



So, no brackets, tape, nor dangling necessary. :)

From: Chris (CHRISSS)26 Aug 2018 17:46
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 21 of 36
Screws? Why bother with that. Just plug it in and leave it hanging somewhere :)

Not seen drives held in directly to the case before.
EDITED: 26 Aug 2018 17:47 by CHRISSS
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)26 Aug 2018 20:57
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 22 of 36
Since mine has a rather large passive cooling coil in the middle, and the cables are long enough that it'd be on the floor anyway, screwing it in place means no need to worry about it getting knocked by clumsy oaf cleaners.
From: koswix27 Aug 2018 12:38
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 23 of 36
Apparently the dell XPS tower has that for expansion bays, too. Also a fancy hinged PSU tray. But also just read that the CPU is soldered, so no upgrading that later. Good job I went for the beefiest one I could :D
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)27 Aug 2018 13:28
To: koswix 24 of 36
This is a tower? Fucking hell.
From: Dave!!27 Aug 2018 14:34
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 25 of 36
Underneath the motherboard? That's strange! I have an M2 SSD on mine and the connector is on top. Fitting the drive was no more difficult than installing a PCIe card. Probably easier than a SATA one actually as only one screw is required, and no cabling.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)27 Aug 2018 16:17
To: Dave!! 26 of 36
Yeah, and it wasn't obvious when I was first looking at the manual diagram - I was like "Huh? It can't be there, that's where the SATA cable connects, it wouldn't fit", before realising it was just not well labelled.

Guess it's because Mini-ITX has limited space, and putting it next to the SATA but on the reverse is probably the most efficient layout - a quick search shows other Mini-ITX boards also have it on the back.

Had the connector been more conveniently accessible I probably would have gone for m.2, but SSD will be good enough, and (once I've got it setup) I can remove the 3.5" HDD and will have absolutely no moving parts. Hooray! :D

From: Chris (CHRISSS)27 Aug 2018 19:17
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 27 of 36
Mine just sits under my desk upstairs so not usually worried too much about anyone banging it. That's why I have a spinny disk sitting in top on my DVD drive (which is screwed in) and the SSD dangling around the bottom of the case.
From: koswix28 Aug 2018 12:08
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 28 of 36
Yup. Fucking Dell T_T
EDITED: 28 Aug 2018 12:08 by KOSWIX
From: Dave!!28 Aug 2018 12:19
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 29 of 36
I see your point. Under the board is a bit daft and a right sod to reach. Mine however is a normal ATX board, hence the nice, easy access.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)28 Aug 2018 13:31
To: Dave!! 30 of 36
Full ATX? Haven't had one in ~7-8 years.
From: Dave!!28 Aug 2018 13:36
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 31 of 36
I like a proper tower PC :)

Besides, small ones don't have room for my five hard drives (not counting the SSD)...
From: ANT_THOMAS28 Aug 2018 13:51
To: Dave!! 32 of 36
Proper full ATX? Or Mid ATX
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)28 Aug 2018 13:52
To: Dave!! 33 of 36
Oh. I meant the MB.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)28 Aug 2018 15:44
To: Dave!! 34 of 36
Does the M.2 drive have any benefit over a normal SSD? Apart from less space as it's directly on the motherboard?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)28 Aug 2018 15:58
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 35 of 36
Supposedly faster on PCI-X lane than over SATA.