Wacom me do

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)18 Aug 2016 21:32
To: graphitone 21 of 84
> Dodged a bullet there

Sounds more like you walked away from a trundling ball.

From: graphitone19 Aug 2016 07:32
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 22 of 84
Like the boulder thing in Indiana Jones? I would say that would be significantly worse than a bullet. I'd much rather be shot and have it all over in one go rather than be running away in terror, just delaying the inevitable crush.

Surely you're not adverse to a little hyperbole?
From: graphitone19 Aug 2016 07:35
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 23 of 84
I found the application specific menu last night, so can change sensitivity, pen 'feeling' (hard or soft touch) depending on whether I'm in Photoshop or not.

Drawing and shading isn't quite intuitive yet, but it's a fairly shallow learning curve.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Aug 2016 13:41
To: graphitone 24 of 84
Can you stump teh with a tablet turing test? Post two drawings, one tablet and one scanned from pencil.
From: graphitone19 Aug 2016 14:39
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 25 of 84
That's a nice idea, though at the moment I think it'd be fairly obvious which was which.

I've not actually tried the pencil tool in Photoshop with the tablet yet.  :-$

I've been doing more cartoony stuff in a Jim'll Paint It style.
From: koswix24 Oct 2016 15:48
To: graphitone 26 of 84
Cocking hell, the thread even has the same name. I'm a buffoon LOL
EDITED: 24 Oct 2016 15:52 by KOSWIX
From: graphitone24 Oct 2016 19:14
To: koswix 27 of 84
You muffin.

I drew the picture in my wife's wedding anniversary card (which is tomorrow, so don't tell her that I'm showing you now) with it.

The wording goes something along the lines of:

You're so awesome, I'd totally get the Pope to beatify the remains of Mr. Motivator in your honour.



 
EDITED: 24 Oct 2016 19:15 by GRAPHITONE
From: koswix24 Oct 2016 20:13
To: graphitone 28 of 84
Lovely.

What's your thoughts on it now you've had a chance to play (No, john)?
From: graphitone24 Oct 2016 21:11
To: koswix 29 of 84
I really like it, for drawing. I'm not going to use it as a mouse replacement any time soon.

The pressure sensitivity is good and works well in Photoshop. It's not really analogous to using a pen or pencil, even though it's as immediate as those, it obviously doesn't have the tactile feedback of working on paper. I've changed my mind, it's not great for shading (at least for my style, which is quite linear with crosshatching etc.), but for creating the simple comic art type stuff, it's really nice. :)

 
EDITED: 26 Oct 2016 10:11 by GRAPHITONE
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)24 Oct 2016 23:08
To: graphitone 30 of 84
I've heard you can put paper on the tablet for a more tactile feel, but I reckon it would wear out the tip pretty fast.
From: graphitone25 Oct 2016 08:52
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 31 of 84
I'll try that and see what it's like. The tablet's surface feels too slippery for my style of drawing. I'm sure it's possible though, I've just not used it enough to get the technique.

I've got better results using a large (A2 or A3) canvas at a high res with really small brushes.
From: koswix25 Oct 2016 10:58
To: graphitone 32 of 84
Hmm. I tried courting in a scan with my mouse yesterday. Results weren't great, was wondering if a tablet would be better. I see some of the wacom tablets have a tilt sensor too, so you can vary brush /pencil angle...

Then I saw the Cintiq (?) tablet and screen things - wow! Want!
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)25 Oct 2016 13:52
To: koswix 33 of 84
What's 'courting in a scan' ? If you mean retouching yeah, even a cheap wacom is way better than a mouse.

TBH I don't think tablets hold any real advantage over real media for creating original pencil/pen/brush artwork, even factoring in all the layering, erasing, undo etc. shit. Principle drawback is that you aren't looking at your drawing implement, lack of tactile feedback etc. Plus maybe it's too easy to get caught up in the layering, erasing, undo etc. shit and wind up with really overworked, but conceptually undisciplined results. Maybe the best of both worlds is to use real media, scan it, then digitally manipulate it in various ways.
EDITED: 25 Oct 2016 13:52 by DSMITHHFX
From: graphitone25 Oct 2016 15:33
To: koswix 34 of 84
Aye, the Cintiq range looks ace.

Again, I think it'd be hard to get used to something like a tilt sensitivity without the tactile feedback. If they could shoehorn a series of shifting weights in the pen for some mega-haptic shenanigans, I'd be all for it.
From: koswix25 Oct 2016 22:03
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 35 of 84
Uhhh, colouring. I really should check to see what SwiftKey has changed my world to before I hit post.

I'm trying to learn a bit more about drawing at the moment, and I'm quite happy with my progress with pencil and paper, but It'd be nice to have a quick and clean (and cheaper than Copic pens) way to add colour and depth. I like working on real paper, but I do keep trying to control-z when I do something stupid though >.<

I watched some YouTube videos of an ex-disney guy (animator and director, forget his name) creating a sketch and then painting entirely with a wacom and corel paint essentials. Stunning results, if very Disney-esque.
From: koswix25 Oct 2016 22:04
To: graphitone 36 of 84
Which tablet did you get in the end? The medium size intuous 5 seems to go on ebay for reasonable amounts. Might write to santa...
From: graphitone26 Oct 2016 07:20
To: koswix 37 of 84
I got one of these. It's the smaller version, but works well for me.

At time of buying they were going for between £35 and £45. I didn't want to spend any more if the tech hadn't improved all that much since I first tried a Wacom way back when. Turns out it has, and I'm pleasantly surprised.
From: koswix26 Oct 2016 07:46
To: graphitone 38 of 84
Ah yeah saw those as well. Want to get the biggest I can, as I found the small bamboo thing I had years ago to be far too small to be any real use.

Are you using it as a mouse replacement too, or just for art faggery?
From: graphitone26 Oct 2016 08:33
To: koswix 39 of 84
I don't think it's accurate enough for a mouse replacement. Nope, it's probably too accurate. When moving the cursor's a bit erratic, due to it being too sensitive (and there may well be a setting to reduce this) and it's picking up every bit of wobble from my hand. I'm pretty steady handed and it amplifies every shake.

I'm working across two monitors and like Smiffy alluded to before, they're different resolutions and the absolute positioning given the tablet's ratio makes scrolling between them a little odd.
From: koswix26 Oct 2016 11:44
To: graphitone 40 of 84
Bugger. I'm shakey enough as it is  T_T