In/out/shake it all about

From: graphitone24 Jun 2016 07:22
To: ALL11 of 93
Absolute fuck biscuits.

Apparently it was us in the north that were most responsible.

Sorry.
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Jun 2016 07:26
To: graphitone 12 of 93
66.2/33.8 for leave in my area.

Cameron has now resigned, leaving by October.
From: koswix24 Jun 2016 08:16
To: graphitone 13 of 93
60/40 remain for scotland. Bye!
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)24 Jun 2016 08:37
To: ALL14 of 93
On the bright side... Cameron's out too.
From: koswix24 Jun 2016 08:38
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 15 of 93
But to be replaced by BoJo. 
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Jun 2016 08:38
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 16 of 93
Boris is in :((

Not definitely, but likely
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)24 Jun 2016 08:40
To: ANT_THOMAS 17 of 93
You think the Conservatives can win an election after this?
From: koswix24 Jun 2016 08:43
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 18 of 93
They don't need to - BoJo will win leadership, still have 4(?) years left on their term in office. There won't be an early election, but I bet no one complains about how he's an unelected prime minister like they did with Brown.
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Jun 2016 08:44
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 19 of 93
What Kos said.

It's a Conservative Party thing, they elect a leader, they're the party in government, therefore the leader becomes PM. Much like Gordon Brown did.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)24 Jun 2016 08:48
To: koswix 20 of 93
Oh right :-(
From: koswix24 Jun 2016 09:00
To: ANT_THOMAS 21 of 93
Although saying that, they only have a majority of 17 or somethign so depending on how certain groups in the party behave it could be interesting...
From: milko24 Jun 2016 09:12
To: ALL22 of 93
I feel like I live in a racist country of idiots. I know, not everyone. Enough though, plenty enough. 
From: graphitone24 Jun 2016 09:23
To: ANT_THOMAS 23 of 93
I've not checked mine out, but will do when I get a minute.

Just saw this on the BBC's site:
 
Quote: 
But quitting the EU is not an automatic process - it has to be negotiated with the remaining members. These negotiations are meant to be completed within two years but the European Parliament has a veto over any new agreement formalising the relationship between the UK and the EU.
So, even after this vote, is it the situation that the European Parliament can veto what we've just decided at the polls?
From: graphitone24 Jun 2016 09:32
To: milko 24 of 93
Not everyone, but about 52% of the population. :C

Edit - Actually, that's an egregious slur, inflated by my disappointment in the results.

However, the people I know and have spoken to about it, who voted out are, for the most part, 50yr+ who are racist.

 
EDITED: 24 Jun 2016 11:47 by GRAPHITONE
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)24 Jun 2016 09:34
To: graphitone 25 of 93
They can veto a proposed new trading (etc) agreement, not the referendum.
From: graphitone24 Jun 2016 09:35
To: koswix 26 of 93
Can I come too? :D

The wife actually said she wanted to move to Scotland after hearing the result this morning.

What's your policy on immigration?
 
From: JonCooper24 Jun 2016 13:37
To: ALL27 of 93
wow, so glad you all decided to accept the 'democratic will of the people' with such good grace, would hate to see you get all bitter about it
From: ANT_THOMAS24 Jun 2016 13:46
To: JonCooper 28 of 93
I accept the will of the people, doesn't mean I'm happy about it.

I assume you accepted the will of the people electing Tony Blair as Prime Minister 3 times whilst being overjoyed?
 
From: milko24 Jun 2016 13:59
To: JonCooper 29 of 93
Yeah I'm pretty bitter right now. Looks like we're heading for a deep recession, taking down much of Europe with us on that path. My kid's future prospects for just about everything are now adversely affected - education, healthcare, culture, travel. My own immediate prospects also seeing as the company I work for does a lot of work in Europe.

Meanwhile, as I posted on here a day or two ago, I don't believe many of the reasons people voted Leave are at all valid and I don't believe the government we're about to get from it are going to do anything good for those people either. And the main opposition party look like they're about to oust their leader and hop back on the immigration controls bandwagon that already failed them last GE, based on a 4 point gap in this referendum. It's an absolute joke.

I'm not really sure, Jon, what kind of reaction from us you'd be hoping for. Nobody's threatening civil war or to somehow 'undo' it, the vote is done and dusted. At some point in the next few days I wish to progress past grief and bitterness to some kind of hope that somehow we can rescue a good future out of this but right now I am not optimistic so please do share any thoughts you have along those lines, I would truly welcome it.
From: JonCooper24 Jun 2016 14:19
To: milko 30 of 93
I genuinely don't understand the whole "grief and bitterness" aspect

I have been hoping for this day for over 20 years and I'm amazed it has finally come

​Do you really think our country is so shit we can't decide things for ourselves any more? are we so dumbed down that we have to be told what to do?

Why will "
education, healthcare, culture, travel be  adversely affected" ? we will have more money available for things like that.

​I see a bright new future ahead, we can make our own trade deals deal with the whole world, we can choose our own immigration policy, our fishing, farming, etc will be conducted more fairly. Hopefully our old friends in the Commonwealth won't hold too many grudges for the appalling way we treated them when we joined the EU.

What we had was a shit deal with a shit organisation (even they admit that) - the future may be uncertain but almost anything has to be better.