Turns out the ESP8266 can run off 4.2V so you can connect a lithium battery direct without a regulator to waste energy. 3x rechargeable AAs work well direct. Next step is to sort the deep sleep code.
I've bought some lithium charging boards to use to protect against over discharge. Another few weeks to wait!
EDITED: 20 Mar 2016 14:26 by ANT_THOMAS
Interesting. I didn't realise they could be run on their own. I assumed they needed an Arduino to connect up to. I wonder how well they run in sleep mode compared to an Atmega with RF24 radio connected.
The ESP-01 model (which I have) has 2 GPIO pins that are useful for stuff. The other models (eg ESP-12F) which have more pins available are a bit larger and look to be more fiddly to use, but I still might buy a couple since they're less than £1.50 each, you can get a mounting board for about 10p anyway.
ESP-01
ESP-12F
To use deep sleep you need access to GPIO 16, which isn't normally available on the ESP-01 (only GPIO 0 and 2). You need to do this...
(and my soldering iron tip is too fat
:C )
I just got an esp-12f, not sure what I'm going to do with it, but for £1.57 including the adapter board it was hard to resist.
Soldering it onto the board was a bit of a pain though, and its too wide to use on a single breadboard.
Nice, you'll definitely be able to deep sleep with that then.
In deep sleep I think it's in the microamp range for power consumption.
I've read various reports of it now always waking from deep sleep which doesn't sound promising.
Yeah, I think I saw something about that as well. Doesn't really bother me at the moment, need to think of something to use it for first!
I actually thought you were the other Chris earlier :$
Sensors, switches, stuff to remotely control
Haha!
My next project is actually an 8x8x8 LED cube, just ordered the esp on a whim alongside the bits for that. Still waiting for my LEDs to turn up though.
Haha. I read your post and thought that was to me and got very confused :)
I'll stick to my RF24 radios for now, at least for my temp sensors because I've got them working nicely. I'll definitely consider them for other things though.
What you got planned for them?
My RF24 temp sensors are working well, but for some reason I don't like them. Range is ok but not as good as I expected, the kitchen one occasionally drops out (and that's got a proper antenna rather than an onboard one), even the bedroom one isn't always 100% and that's in the room above the RPi. It's easier to extend a WiFi network than an RF24 network - I've already got an AP at either sides of the house.
That's a good point about the range. I didn't think about that. I don't have any problems where mine are at the mo but last year when I put one outside for a bit it was tricky getting it to connect to my Pi.
If I ignore the deep sleep and running them off batteries, I now have a nice working setup for a plugged in sensor. I think I'll tweak/redesign the PCB now I know what components are sensible and needed and order some.
I'll probably change a few bits to enable multiple power options, maybe add a few jumper points for various options like disconnecting the regulator.
I'm also wondering how easy it would be to add some dip switches to give each module its own unique id rather than programming each one specifically.
It was only the other week that I got my AliExpress "Awaiting Delivery" list down to 0, it is now 20 (fail)
I need to stop buying cheap electronics.
I placed my first aliexpress order yesterday - a lvds cable for my laptop (the one ordered previously rather unsurprisingly didn't turn up and has been refunded via paypal).
I keep adding things to my basket but then chickening out on ordering stuff. So much stuff I want.
Deep sleep now working. Bought a very sharp tip for my soldering iron and managed to get the wire attached.
I've been doing some more testing on batteries to see how long they last in various setups. All submit a temperature every minute(ish).
3xAA NiMH (no regulator)
No sleep modes
27 hours
4xAA NiMH with AMS1117-3v3 regulator
Small solar panel to attempt to charge the batteries
No sleep modes
58 hours
3xAA NiMH (no regulator)
Deep sleep for around 50-55 seconds (can't remember exactly)
Still alive and approaching 72 hours
Next will be deep sleep + solar panel, and possibly remove the power LED.
Definitely cut the power LED. That alone will probably run the batteries flat fairly quickly. How reliable is it waking from sleep?
Probably not an issue for you if you're going to switch to WiFi sensors but with the RF24s you can route the signal through another close radio to get better range. Not if the middle one is sleeping though.
I read there were issues waking from sleep, but so far I'm at about 86 hours, which means around 5160 successful sleep/wake cycles.
Voltage has levelled off at about 3.6V which is probably close to the minimum the AA batteries can put out.
Error
Voltage
Temperature
3xAA NiMH (no regulator)
Deep sleep for around 50-55 seconds (can't remember exactly)
100 hours
Assuming it has actually died overnight and not just failed to wake from deep sleep (which I guess could be considered the same thing, it's in a coma!)
EDITED: 30 Mar 2016 09:46 by ANT_THOMAS
Can you wake it to do stuff without turning the WiFi on?
4 days. I wonder how much difference the power led would make to the time.
And what do you use to make your graphs?