So, the tin foil hat is a really good fit.  :-D

I see I am posting in the proper folder as well.  %-)

Good catch!  I can't see how useful an Android phone can be when you remove all the Google Apps.  It would be like removing all the Apple Apps from an iPhone, except, well, they don't let you.  Could you imagine the outcry if Google did that?

Some of the stuff is admittedly bloatware/crapware and you can disable it. Some have interdependencies though, so YAMMV.

Native Androids are better; for my part, the next phone I buy will be unlocked, rooted and at full price. I don't want anybody's nonsense on the phone that I don't want - which is why I chose Android Native in the first place. Samsung, et. al. add their own crapola as part of the OS. No thanks.

We have to put up with some, such as the Google (Motorola) crap. Wonder how long before we can actually build our own phones with OSS... (drums)

I was mostly hinting at the fact that Google is the maker of Android, so if you don't trust their Apps why the fuck would you install/use Android.  That's not you personally, that just anyone who doesn't trust Google.  And so could you imagine if you bought an Android phone and couldn't remove Chrome or some other non-essential Google App?  People would lose their minds, but that's exactly what Apple does!

You've gone through 5 androids in 8 weeks?

Impressive. (worship)

Funny thing is, people are [generally] OK with giving Apple unfettered access to everything. They have very successfully mind-conditioned their sheeple into obeisance and allowing full control. Because it is Apple.

I was quite happy to sleep with Steve, but Tim doesn't give me the same boner.

And what I mean by that is that Apple can stick their iCloud up their arse.

But I do have an iPhone, and it really bugs me that I can't remove the Apple crap that I don't need or want, like Stocks for example.

Oh, and Apple really do need to move on from Jobs' Blu-Ray bag'o'hurt. Not everyone is downloading films.

That's a shame because you'd have far better luck with Tim!

Don't I know it. But he's like the ugly girl who gives you the eye.

How does a train fook?

Similar to a bus innit?

<shudder> I don't even want to think about it.  I don't know how women can do it just for money or security, especially some of those 20 somethings who are married to or dating old 90 year olds.  That makes me vomit a little just thinking about it!

I see. Eloquently stated I guess. How does the distaff side feel about the issue, then?

Right. Missed post 2.

You mean to say you just threw up a little in your mouth?

Yes but I swallowed it like a champ!