!Interlink Express

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 05:35
To: graphitone 22 of 44
Ken: Yes!

Graphitone: I'm not left handed but yeah it's completely symmetrical. I'm very happy with it. It is very much a gaming mouse: not a bullshit gaming mouse with loads of buttons, weights, LCD screens, bits that glow and removable bits, made for idiots, but a proper gaming mouse. Which means a very good sensor, very good buttons and no hardware interpolation at all (no smoothing, acceleration or angle snapping at a hardware level) and high polling rate. It's also extremely light. So it feels very exact, even twitchy compared to other mice.

If you want something like that then it's currently the best, along with recent Razer Deathadders.

I'd avoid Steelseries. They're marketed as gaming mice but the hardware isn't really that good and they also have smoothing/acceleration.

If gaming isn't your main priority and/or you want a more desktoppy mouse then I'd go with the Logitech g400 which is very good (not ambidextrous though, I dunno if they do a left-handed model).

Edit: Also while the FK1 is designed for a claw grip it's comfortable when palmed too (I claw when playing games/working and tend to palm when doing idle desktop stuff. I have big hands too).

 
EDITED: 10 Oct 2014 05:53 by X3N0PH0N
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 05:45
To: graphitone 23 of 44
Let this be your guide.

(It's 2013 but nothing of note has changed except the FK1 has replaced the FK)
From: graphitone10 Oct 2014 07:20
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 24 of 44
Cheers boss. The FKs do look the business. What's the lift off distance I've been reading about in reviews? Is that what I think it is, the height you can lift the mouse of a surface and still have the cursor respond?

Are you a mouse mat user? Any worth in those gaming teflon type mats?
 
From: milko10 Oct 2014 07:43
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 25 of 44
Interesting. I've literally never noticed the hardware interpolation whatnot on mine. Which is not to say it isn't there, I just haven't seen it do anything. It does have a light up bit which I could fuck about with if I installed their software which I dont. I just hope the buttons don't break like my old MS ones always did, if they do I'll look at your fancy pants £50 mouse next.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 08:04
To: graphitone 26 of 44
Yeah, it's that exactly. For (FPS) gaming you want that distance to be as low as possible because you'll be lifting the mouse off the pad a lot and you don't want the cross-hair moving when you do that. Outside of FPSes it doesn't really matter.

For pads just go for something that tracks well and you're comfortable with. I prefer the very hard plastic ones purely because they stand up better to the punishment I seem to give things when I use them (YJ). I wouldn't go for the really expensive ones, I think they're mainly gimmicks. I wouldn't bother with one at all but the surface of my desk and optical mice just don't get along. I have one of these and it's fine. No better/worse than other hard plastic ones I've had (both more and less expensive), I think they're much of a muchness really (got it cos it's big enough and not too expensive).
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 08:07
To: milko 27 of 44
It's one of those things that you only really appreciate when you try it. It's not a massive deal, obviously, and I'm under no illusions that it'll make me any better at games. But it definitely feels more kinda crisp and satisfying. Makes playing just that tiny bit more enjoyable, like.

 
From: milko10 Oct 2014 08:50
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 28 of 44
Fair enough. I am suspicious of 'your' guide because my old Intellimouse is in the GREAT tier despite me going through several of them due to shoddy microswitches in the buttons that just didn't last long enough. Yet my current mouse which feels (as near as I can tell at least) identical to use but hopefully won't suffer from that is SHIT :C
EDITED: 10 Oct 2014 08:51 by MILKO
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 09:03
To: milko 29 of 44
LOL AT UR SHIT MUSE MILKO Y R U SUCH A NAB

Really you'd only notice this stuff in (competitive) FPSes. I started playing CS again (which made me really miss the days when we all used to play together as PCF. All you breeders should sell your babies and we should have a reunion one day) and I began to really notice the angle snapping my old MX518 was doing. Never noticed it before then. S'why I got this thing.
EDITED: 10 Oct 2014 09:04 by X3N0PH0N
From: graphitone10 Oct 2014 09:22
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 30 of 44
I've got a fairly bog standard argos desk and the laminate's starting to wear through and I'm seeing the underlying chipboard shining through in all it's faux wood glory. That mouse mat looks like n' spacious enough to cover up my rubbed laminate transgressions.
From: milko10 Oct 2014 09:23
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 31 of 44
I hardly ever played CS even back then. Have you got Next Car Game aka now Wreckfest? It's the new flatout and they just added online modes.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 09:26
To: milko 32 of 44
I thought you did join us from time to time? CS is fun. I forgot how much fun.

I pirated some of the betas of NCG/Wreckfest and was quite impressed. I'll definitely get it if it gets a Lunix port. If it doesn't I'll probably get it if it Wines ok.
From: milko10 Oct 2014 09:53
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 33 of 44
I popped on a few times yeah, but I don't think it was that often. Are you playing the original old one again?
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 10:01
To: milko 34 of 44
No, CS:GO. It feels a lot like old CS though, which CS:S never did to me.
From: milko10 Oct 2014 10:06
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 35 of 44
I have heard good things aye. Suspect I'd get very badly beaten on it now!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Oct 2014 10:13
To: milko 36 of 44
I certainly do :Y
From: koswix10 Oct 2014 14:15
To: ALL37 of 44
Went to the depot to pick it up, it's back on a van out for delivery again. Nothing on the tracking page.

Don't use apc :C
From: af (CAER)10 Oct 2014 14:19
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 38 of 44
Ugh, Deathadders. I had one, and it was just the wrong shape, like my hand was lying too flat on it, and it was awkward to pick up.

My current mouse is a Roccat Kone XTD and it's so nice and comfortable.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)10 Oct 2014 18:30
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 39 of 44
I didn't know mice had angle snapping. No wonder I'm rubbish at games these days, my MX518 is corrupting my movements.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)10 Oct 2014 20:08
To: ALL40 of 44
Fucking newbies!
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)10 Oct 2014 20:08
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 41 of 44
Gimme an Intellimouse Explorer and I'll frag your puny arse to smithereens. :@