There is opportunity for you there if you have the cajones for it. Start your own referendum to kick the whinging fuckers out!

Or are you whinging because they had the temerity to do something about a situation, that at least from their point of view, is not right?

Thems what asks is thems what gets. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I look forward to the referendum, perhaps it will be as riveting as the last one was.

Jon's analogy, which I answered, is not at all similar to Scotland.

All that's needed is an open, all-inclusive referendum or a revolution. But individual, exclusive referenda solve nothing.

As a half-blood, I was half-hoping yes would win, and half-dreading what might follow if it did. Disappointed.

Start a revolution then. I'm sure you will win.

Every journey starts with a single step, so I shall start by throwing a teabag into the sea.

uh, since they voted to stay, maybe they don't see it that way? (at least the majority don't)

55% is hardly an overwhelming majority though. And, according to my inside information, they were tricked.

Not surprisingly.

They're gullible enough, 'twas easy.

But just because He made them sheep, does not mean they have to be shorn.

That actually might so it! I heard some guys did it many years ago to some big, red meanies and it ended up being a smashing success! (I hear to avoid detection, one should don face paint and loin cloth.)

Interestingly, Gearge Washington condemned the act.

One teabag may not be enough. Those guys years ago tossed the equivalent of 18.5 million + teabags. What a waste of [probably] really good tea!

Interestingly, the BTP might seem ridiculous at first; the Tea Act actually reduced total tax on tea and we could buy it from EIC (early form of a bailout) for less than the British could. It was the 3 pence per pound duty they railed against. I'd suspect that this was taught more over there than here, because even today the Bossy British were the bad guys because of Mean Old King George, Parliament and the Townshend Acts. I didn't know he was that old and still an excellent gitfiddle player. We wanted fewer taxes and duties, plus Hancock wanted Dutch tea!

If you guys hadn't had such an imperial nature and starting wars for seven years at a time, you'd had more money and wouldn't have to try to make up war debts by gouging the Colonists.

They did vote to stay, and I see that as a Good Thing &#0153 all around. Still, a significant number of people voted for secession which should possibly effect changes even though cousing in Ireland brought me up to speed on how much Scotland already gets. I think their beef (SNP) is more principled, however.

Bah! That can't be known until later. Sounds like a sore loser to me. If they's run a more successful campaign they would have won, I'll bet. Government ready to step in, monetary policy, solution for all those nuke subs they wanted to be rid of, military contingencies, those sorts of things.

I liked Russia's take on it.

Well, if it's good tea I should use the teabag first. If it's shit tea (e.g. PG Tips, Tetley, or Yorkshire) I'd be willing to step up to a box of unused (and unusable) bags.

There are limits to my revolutionary zeal, after all.

I wasn't aware that Russia had the time to give a shit.

Oh yes.

I propose an exhaustive taste test first. You shall be Supreme Taster(being so close to Scotland and all), I shall be a Lowly Assistant. We must find The Most Inexpensive Tea Suitable for Discard. Fine cheeses, crackers, tarts and what have you should be employed as requisite to properly cleanse the palate. Fine English ales would also be appropriate lest our results be skewed by false taste impressions; we do not want to get this wrong, for a country's future lands in the balance.

I will leave it to you to decide when we should have completed the research. I feel not qualified in the least. If you should deign to ask my opinion, I would like to defer to your Superior experience in tha matter only of course to ensure a fair and impartial assessment. If we disagree, I suggest (most humbly) that any and all of those Members(Teh Forum) what are Necessary to Determine a Suitable Tea are asked to Break the Impasse. The queen Mum will of course provide financial recompense for these libations and fortificaions.

A humble proposal from One Who Drinks Tea infrequently at Present, but Who Could be Swayed to Drink More in the Future in the Name of Pure Research. Naturally, this should occur in England, city of your choosing.

It's a great idea, but I think that relying on Teh as arbiter of taste might be a weak point. Most of the proles here drink what can best be described as floor sweepings. They add milk and sugar to make it bearable. Xen probably drinks NAAFI tea or, worse, Tetleys. Graphitone, coming from the People's Republic of Yorkshire, likely drinks Yorkshire Tea. These are the sorts of teas that can only be improved by dumping them in the harbour.