The natives are getting restless

From: ANT_THOMAS19 Sep 2014 15:18
To: JonCooper 131 of 189
I was definitely being extreme in my analogy.

But in terms of marriage if one person wants out then why should the other have a say in the actual separation?

Of course the break up of assets, finances etc they'll have a large say, but not the actual end of the relationship.
From: johngti_mk-ii19 Sep 2014 16:47
To: ALL132 of 189
I want to know why he feels the need to resign. He tried, it didn't work. Get over it and keep doing your job. If it's because the SNP feel they've missed something important, they should call an election. Like what labour should've done in 2007
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)19 Sep 2014 17:17
To: johngti_mk-ii 133 of 189
The man deserves a rest. He's been instrumental in achieving an improbable amount.

Also the party's going to need to kinda rebrand for a while I'd imagine and that'd be much easier with a new leader.
From: Jo (JELLS)19 Sep 2014 18:42
To: johngti_mk-ii 134 of 189
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I want to know why he feels the need to resign.
Maybe he doesn't want to be FM of a non-independent country? Similar thing happened here, after the Quebec referendum of 1995. The premier of the province at the time, Jacques Parizeau, resigned after the Yes side lost because he didn't want to be FM of a province - he wanted to be the leader of a country.
From: johngti_mk-ii19 Sep 2014 18:47
To: Jo (JELLS) 135 of 189
Meh. There was always the possibility that they were going to lose. He should see out the job he's been elected to do. I deserve a rest too but I'm not wealthy enough to be able to
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)19 Sep 2014 20:25
To: fixrman 136 of 189
quote: fixrman
How could you possibly say the all of UK had the right to allow Scotland to secede? That would have decidedly put those favour of independence at a complete and futile disadvantage.

Other than what Jon already said, you seem to assume that the rUK would interfere with Scotland's right to secede. But what about rUK's right to get rid of the whinging fuckers? Eh?

Instead of a free rUK, now there'll be another 10-15 years of whining from north of the border before another referendum. Hopefully next time all voters will be involved, as in democracy, and the fekkers will be kicked out. They can keep their fucking oil (what's left of it bwahahahahah).

EDITED: 19 Sep 2014 20:28 by MR_BASTARD
From: fixrman20 Sep 2014 17:00
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 137 of 189
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But what about rUK's right to get rid of the whinging fuckers? Eh?

There is opportunity for you there if you have the cajones for it. Start your own referendum to kick the whinging fuckers out!

Or are you whinging because they had the temerity to do something about a situation, that at least from their point of view, is not right?

Thems what asks is thems what gets. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I look forward to the referendum, perhaps it will be as riveting as the last one was.

Jon's analogy, which I answered, is not at all similar to Scotland.

EDITED: 20 Sep 2014 17:03 by FIXRMAN
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)20 Sep 2014 18:08
To: fixrman 138 of 189
All that's needed is an open, all-inclusive referendum or a revolution. But individual, exclusive referenda solve nothing.
EDITED: 20 Sep 2014 18:09 by MR_BASTARD
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)20 Sep 2014 18:53
To: ALL139 of 189
As a half-blood, I was half-hoping yes would win, and half-dreading what might follow if it did. Disappointed.
From: fixrman21 Sep 2014 01:51
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 140 of 189
Start a revolution then. I'm sure you will win.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 Sep 2014 08:52
To: fixrman 141 of 189
Every journey starts with a single step, so I shall start by throwing a teabag into the sea.
From: JonCooper21 Sep 2014 11:17
To: fixrman 142 of 189
quote: fixrman
..... temerity to do something about a situation, that at least from their point of view, is not right? .....

uh, since they voted to stay, maybe they don't see it that way? (at least the majority don't)
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 Sep 2014 13:11
To: JonCooper 143 of 189
55% is hardly an overwhelming majority though. And, according to my inside information, they were tricked.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)21 Sep 2014 13:46
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 144 of 189
Not surprisingly.
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 Sep 2014 17:04
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 146 of 189
They're gullible enough, 'twas easy.

But just because He made them sheep, does not mean they have to be shorn.
From: fixrman21 Sep 2014 18:12
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 147 of 189
That actually might so it! I heard some guys did it many years ago to some big, red meanies and it ended up being a smashing success! (I hear to avoid detection, one should don face paint and loin cloth.)

Interestingly, Gearge Washington condemned the act.

One teabag may not be enough. Those guys years ago tossed the equivalent of 18.5 million + teabags. What a waste of [probably] really good tea!

Interestingly, the BTP might seem ridiculous at first; the Tea Act actually reduced total tax on tea and we could buy it from EIC (early form of a bailout) for less than the British could. It was the 3 pence per pound duty they railed against. I'd suspect that this was taught more over there than here, because even today the Bossy British were the bad guys because of Mean Old King George, Parliament and the Townshend Acts. I didn't know he was that old and still an excellent gitfiddle player. We wanted fewer taxes and duties, plus Hancock wanted Dutch tea!

If you guys hadn't had such an imperial nature and starting wars for seven years at a time, you'd had more money and wouldn't have to try to make up war debts by gouging the Colonists.
From: fixrman21 Sep 2014 18:17
To: JonCooper 148 of 189
They did vote to stay, and I see that as a Good Thing &#0153 all around. Still, a significant number of people voted for secession which should possibly effect changes even though cousing in Ireland brought me up to speed on how much Scotland already gets. I think their beef (SNP) is more principled, however.
From: fixrman21 Sep 2014 18:21
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 149 of 189
Bah! That can't be known until later. Sounds like a sore loser to me. If they's run a more successful campaign they would have won, I'll bet. Government ready to step in, monetary policy, solution for all those nuke subs they wanted to be rid of, military contingencies, those sorts of things.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)21 Sep 2014 20:02
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 150 of 189
I liked Russia's take on it.