Arduino

From: ANT_THOMAS17 Aug 2015 20:49
To: koswix 393 of 542
And just run it for x seconds?
From: ANT_THOMAS17 Aug 2015 20:50
To: graphitone 394 of 542
It is a nice idea, but I think they're still too expensive, pretty tight budget.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)17 Aug 2015 20:53
To: graphitone 395 of 542
Mine are piled in cardboard cartons -- when I remember to put them back.
From: ANT_THOMAS17 Aug 2015 21:05
To: ANT_THOMAS 396 of 542
Or I could use a hall effect sensor or two to detect whether it is open or shut.
From: graphitone17 Aug 2015 22:41
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 397 of 542
Mine are in an old Fairy tub. :J
From: koswix17 Aug 2015 23:07
To: ANT_THOMAS 398 of 542
They use a mechanical linkage which reverses direction (motor runs continuously in one direction), so just install it so that turn in direction coincides with the max open position of the hatch, then add a limit switch to stop the motor when it reaches there.

They use a worm gear in the gearbox so produce substantial torque, but I've no idea if it's enough to lift a MDF door from horizontal. If there was torque figure available somewhere it's fairly trivial to work it out, though. Or just try it and see, if I doesn't work you have a spare motor for making a robot.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)18 Aug 2015 21:13
To: ANT_THOMAS 399 of 542
Is it finished?
From: ANT_THOMAS18 Aug 2015 21:25
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 400 of 542
Which bit?

It's half boarded and the hatch frame is in. Should get it pretty much finished tomorrow. Then I'll design some ridiculous way to open the hatch door.
From: koswix18 Aug 2015 22:15
To: ANT_THOMAS 401 of 542
What about having a piece of hanging 'art' on the wall beside where the hatch is?

Use it as a counterweight, if you want to open the hatch then just give it a gentle tug downwards and marvel at your secret entrance skills :D
From: ANT_THOMAS18 Aug 2015 22:33
To: koswix 402 of 542
My dad has suggested a counter-weight method too, with the weight in the attic.

It would still require the door to be pushed (at least initially), but it would make it much easier.

We've also realised that with a top opening door it may need some space for the loft ladders, unless the door actually goes within the frame rather than on top. Anyway, I've got enough MDF left over to sort that.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Aug 2015 01:04
To: ANT_THOMAS 403 of 542
Spring(s)?
From: graphitone19 Aug 2015 11:41
To: ANT_THOMAS 404 of 542
Have you got any pictures of what you've done so far?

Whenever anyone's telling me about their DIY projects my mind automatically imagines an Ikea-like paradise where everything fits neatly, walls are perfectly straight, you've got all the right screws to hand and there's never a dead battery, all in a room lit by white light coming through diaphanous curtains. I don't know why, 'cos my own DIY projects are usually messy affairs covered in filler, caulk, paint, blood and much swearing.
From: ANT_THOMAS19 Aug 2015 15:39
To: graphitone 405 of 542
My DIY project sounds very similar to yours. I've taken a few photos of the hatch progress, I'll put them up later. I'll take a photo of the finished flooring once it's done. I was going to put a camera up there and timelapse it, but it's so so filthy.

My dust mask from yesterday
From: graphitone19 Aug 2015 17:40
To: ANT_THOMAS 406 of 542
Filth. :C

But I would like to see how it's going - always interested in DIY stuffs.
From: Matt19 Aug 2015 18:26
To: ANT_THOMAS 407 of 542
Glad to see you have the keys to the windows, in their rightful place, on the window sill.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Aug 2015 18:36
To: Matt 408 of 542
And the getaway car parked nearby.
From: ANT_THOMAS19 Aug 2015 20:10
To: Matt 409 of 542
The other place is in the lock, but that's risky business when there's a chance the key will fall out when you open it!
From: ANT_THOMAS19 Aug 2015 23:27
To: graphitone 410 of 542
Not totally finished but so far... (click for bigger)

Original hatch



Day 1 - widen hatch and put supporting beams across existing beams. Filthy work. Didn't realise that the developer I bought it off had put a suspended ceiling in the landing area, that made things a bit more complicated.

 

Day 2 - Give the hatch a box/carcass



Day 3 - Architrave

 

It will soon be painted white.

Day 2 - Started the boarding

 

Day 3 - Most of the rest of boarding done

 
 

You may notice I've not laid the tongue & groove as it should be. I've gone tongue-tongue, groove-groove. My original reason was because I wanted it to be easy to lift any boards in future, and as I've been laying the boards it became an even better idea because the beams I'm screwing into aren't level/even in the slightest so getting them to align nicely would have been impossible. The house is about 150 years old so that's not a surprise.

The best way would have been to build a frame across the area to lay the boards on to ensure it was totally flat. That wasn't going to happen.

Day 4 will be laying any extra boards and bits of boards that need doing.

I'll need to make a change to the door when the ladders arrive. Once that's done I'll crack open the paint.
From: graphitone20 Aug 2015 09:29
To: ANT_THOMAS 411 of 542
:D looks like it's going well, but a pretty big job. Are you taking time off work to do this? How did you tidy up the top of the uprights (the bits that cover the gap in the suspended ceiling) from the hatch where it meets the boards above? It looks nice n' neat.

Are you boarding over the insulation stuff or removing that as you go?  That's reminded me, I had a look in our loft space the other week. Like yours it's got a suspended ceiling from when the attic was converted from a room and a corridor into one big room. They made some attempt at insulation - there's a bag of polystyrene pellets up there covering about a square meter's worth of floor space. It's just above my dart board, so at least that'll be nice and warm come the winter. :/

I like the light well. :)

 
From: Chris (CHRISSS)20 Aug 2015 22:25
To: ANT_THOMAS 412 of 542
I can't open attachments on my Kindle. I'm avoiding any new threads with attachments til I get home. Looks like you have a nice bit of attic space. Mine is pretty big but there are s many bits of wood supporting the roof (I don't know the tevhnical term for them) that it makes it very awkars to move around the attic.