Anyone got any kind of clue what the current equivalent of the GeForce 650M is? Either Nvidia or Radeon/AMD tbh x2gb. Why are graphics chips numbered so stupidly?! :@

OK, I quite like the look of this, but what's with that stupid keyboard layout? It's making me feel all PB :S

Looks rather nice actually; the keyboard is different because it's a larger format I guess.

They have the same layour on their 15.6" laptops. Small return key, \ above it. Not sure what else they've done to it. I normally use my pinky for the return key, and it always lands just over half-way up - which would be the \ key on the Lenovo.

Also the Gefrock 740M is about 10% slower than the 650M in my old one, and the screen is higher res so I reckon I'd really notice the difference in the two :(

There's absolutely no need for the left shift key to be so large.

Is that a US layout or something?

I believe the technical term is "bloody fucking stupid".

You just can't handle a real keyboard.

Samsung seem to do the silly left shift/return thing on their US layours, but UK layouts appear to be normal (from a quick google image search).

Lenovo US and UK are both wack.

Are all your keyboards like that?

think I'm going to try and get this one out of them, even if i have to pay a bit more (if that's possible)

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Samsung_BARE_METAL_CORE_i5_3230M_8GB_1TB_VEXT_2D3HHD8850M_CAM_BT_15.6_INCH__NP780Z5E-T01UK/version.asp

Not all of them. My dell laptop has both shift keys full sized.

If that was a desktop keyboard, I'd say without doubt that it is a US layout with the slash above the Enter key and you'd get a UK layout, but as it's a laptop anything is possible :(

(Lots of websites reuse the stock photos from the manufacturer, so you tend to see this almost everywhere.)

I thought that too and searched and didn't find any photos that didn't show the odd layout.

If John Lewis wasn't such a pain in the arse to get to I'd go have a look at it.

Are Radeon cards really bad these days? That's the impression I get from the benchmarks, but they can be misleading.

Far from really bad, just not on par with Nvidia any more. but AMD are definitely aware of this, which is why they've priced them a heck of a lot cheaper.

I'm still rocking a Radeon (currently have a 7970 3GBtbh, and previously a 6850 and a 4870 before that) and it's more than capable of running all the "AAA" games I play and at 1920x1200.

Edit: As far as laptops go, AMD GPU often means AMD CPU too and given the choice I'd always go Intel for laptops, so that might sway your decision.

Definitely going Intel for the CPU, but the Samsung I linked to above has an i5 with a Radeon 8850(I think). Seems to be more Radeon chips around at the moment compared to Geforce, no idea why.

They must be doing something right, in all 3 next-get consoles (if you consider Wii U next-gen).

8850m doesn't look too shabby. Last year's tech, but still very capable for a laptop GPU.

I think I was spoilt by my GT 650m. Also, I'm beginning to think my laptop was a complete and utter bargain :|

Would they buy from ebay?

Could be some brand new ones around on there.