Linux-proxy-me-do

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2 Aug 2013 19:25
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 47 of 52
Maybe. But it's going to be a long time before many of those improvements are incorporated into Webcore, I would imagine.




From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 2 Aug 2013 19:25
To: Matt 48 of 52
I think it did ask that for me, but it's been so long since I installed it that I can't remember for sure.

I do hate how ... sneaky they can be though - on Opera Mobile every so often I'll find a bunch of shit added to my speed dial. :@

Which also reminds me of Adblock Plus recently - it keeps updating, flashing up a stupid tab, and re-enabling the "Google are forcing us to allow their ads" option, with no way to stop it. :@

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 2 Aug 2013 19:26
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 49 of 52
Probably. I think the first step is ripping out Apple shit and re-architecturing it to run better?
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2 Aug 2013 19:36
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 50 of 52
Aye that seems to be the main focus. Having just read up on it a bit, it all seems rather sensible.

I actually switched back to chromium the other day. It's a bit annoying because generally speaking I prefer FF. I prefer its interface (once I've rearranged it to my satisfaction (I also prefer that I can do that)). And I prefer the philosophy and position of the Mozilla foundation to that of Google.

And yet... Chromium is just (or feels at least) significantly faster again. And just runs better on Linux too (where I spend 99% of my time these days).

It just feels like a more modern approach to making a broswer, really. Taking on board all the lessons learned over the past decade or two. I'm not really sure how FF can respond.


From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 2 Aug 2013 19:56
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 51 of 52
I still use both in roughly equal measure.

Chrome/ium's UI is shit, but less contrived than what Firefox does.

It's faster to startup, and a bit lighter weight - though a huge chunk of that is faked, which makes it a pain when things are actually running slowly. And having task manager spammed with processes is a pain.

Also is/was less effort to configure multiple instances - even though they're not really separate instances and interfere with each other except in the places you actually want them to.

For everything else I currently can think of, Chromium is equally or more shit compared to Firefox, and if I didn't open and close assorted browser sessions so often I'd probably ditch it. :/

The right way for Mozilla to respond ... well there's a thing Linus said about Git - any time he was unsure how to implement something, he'd look at SVN and do the opposite. Mozilla need to do that with Firefox, instead of aiming to be a poor imitation of Chrome.

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 2 Aug 2013 20:08
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 52 of 52
Aye, your last paragraph makes a lot of sense :Y