Alan's Psychadelic Earthquake Breakfast

From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 12:58
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 44 of 392
The work of the Office is largely aimed at hailstorm prevention or making rain to end droughts;
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Their technology was also used to create snow on New Year's Day in 1997.
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they were enlisted by the Chinese government to ensure that the 2008 Summer Olympics are free of rain
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Other proposed future uses for induced precipitation include lowering temperatures in summer, in hopes of reducing electricity consumption.
EDITED: 4 Aug 2012 12:59 by BOUGHTONP
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 4 Aug 2012 12:58
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 45 of 392
That's cloud seeding. That's... mild tampering with the weather.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 13:04
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 46 of 392
So you're saying that making sure clouds rain before/after a specific area is not controlling the weather for that area?

Or are you just disappointed because it's not total control, and you wanted to find out they had a magic machine that could muster up a thunderstorm just by pulling a lever?
From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) 4 Aug 2012 13:16
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 47 of 392
It's semantics, but I wouldn't really consider faffing around with clouds isn't really the same as making changes to a huge weather system. It's kind of like calling a bit of gardening terraforming.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 4 Aug 2012 13:19
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 48 of 392
What Dan said. 53 was implying a more profound weather control, talking about cloud systems over Island influencing weather in London.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 13:40
To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) 49 of 392
The phrase "total control" (etc) exists because simply "control" itself is NOT defined as being absolute, or even significant.

Control is specifically described as "power to influence or guide" and "a means of limitation", and thus faffing with clouds is well within the acceptable description of "controlling the weather", because the weather was influenced and limited by not raining over the designated area.

Nobody made any claims about being in total control of huge weather systems.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 13:41
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 50 of 392
Was he? You're reading that the "massive weird" system (no mention of clouds) is being claimed to be man-made because you want to believe that (or at least believe that he believes it).

quote:
Beijing admitted it was controlling the weather for their Olympics, but all we see is a strange system over Eire, luckily keeping the weather reasonable for ours.

See?

You've already complained that he's acting too much like a fortune teller or astrologer, with wishy washy statements that don't mean anything, but now you're trying to pin down those statements by injecting them with your own meaning, instead of taking them at face value.
EDITED: 4 Aug 2012 13:41 by BOUGHTONP
From: Manthorp 4 Aug 2012 13:48
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 51 of 392
Presumably owning a hat is low level weather control.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 13:54
To: Manthorp 52 of 392
Especially one lined with tin or lead. :)
From: Manthorp 4 Aug 2012 14:03
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 53 of 392
As worn by every well-dressed Teher.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 4 Aug 2012 14:24
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 54 of 392
Contextually, it was implied.

Seeding clouds isn't controlling the weather in any meaningful sense, it's influencing it a bit.

I'm not injecting meaning, just trying to find some.

Really don't care enough to argue this and there's a thunderstorm so I'm going to walk in the rain (which I personally believe was caused by our secret overlords from Uranus).
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 14:37
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 55 of 392
If you see lightning coming towards you, give it a wave from me. :)
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 15:09
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 56 of 392

what about the beaming technology? or was that just for shifting tectonic plates?

 

[edit] ah bugger, this was meant for PB

EDITED: 4 Aug 2012 15:10 by JONCOOPER
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 15:56
To: JonCooper 57 of 392
You mean this:
quote:
looks like they're using 2 or 3 beams to try and reposition the tectonic plate, with magma being forced Northward into the Kurils
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The Yank beam has been smoothing Alaska and letting California and Central America move in jolts.


Nothing to do with weather.

A quick search suggests that laser beams are used to measure the velocity of tectonic places - I didn't find anything to suggests that anyone is warming/cooling magma to try and change their movements.

If it was as widespread as "China, Japan, USA. Russia. also Oz, South Africa maybe, NATO, probably France, maybe Canada" doing it, then I would expect to find at least some hint of something.

*shrug*
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 16:37
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 58 of 392
tbh, it all blends into one, so many odd thoughts at once
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 17:44
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 61 of 392
Awful
madly
water pit
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From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 18:17
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 62 of 392
just so's I know, do you think someone is doing this or are you just reporting events as they happen?
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