Refurbished laptoo

From: Dave!!16 Aug 2014 14:33
To: ANT_THOMAS 38 of 57
Yep. 16:9 sucks donkey balls :(
From: Chris (CHRISSS)16 Aug 2014 15:28
To: Dave!! 39 of 57
I was torn between this laptop and the T510 which has a 15.6" screen but 1366x768 resolution. Didn't quite seem right having a bigger screen with a lower vertical res.

Not sure if I've tried a chicklet style keyboard. How recent are they? The keys on this are surprisingly solid and wobble free. Best laptop keyboard I've ever tried.

Just realised that it only has 2GB of RAM though. The eBay listing was wrong :O The laptop also came with loads of family photos. They'd done a fresh install of Windows 7 and left the old user files in the Windows.old folder. All gone now, including 7 with a fresh install of 8.
From: Dave!!16 Aug 2014 16:00
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 40 of 57
Yeah, that's 16:9 for you. Introduced purely to cut costs - hence why I dislike them.

Bummer about the RAM. And Windows 8 for that matter  ;-) . I can post you a stick of 4GB DDR3 RAM if you like for the price of a stamp/envelope. PM me if you're interested.

The chicklet keyboards (also known as scrabble-tile) are the ones where each key is flat and clearly separated from the next one by a plastic/metal gap between them. They were introduced due to looking more "modern" and "stylish". They're not necessarily bad and certainly do look better, but I do personally prefer typing on the classic one myself. Classic Keyboard, Chicklet Keyboard.
EDITED: 16 Aug 2014 16:01 by DAVE!!
From: Chris (CHRISSS)16 Aug 2014 17:43
To: Dave!! 41 of 57
Oohh, yes please. What speed is it and is it likely to work with this laptop? Do DIMMs need to be used in pairs? Or is that something to do with dual channel? Not that I know how many DIMMs are actually in this now.
EDITED: 16 Aug 2014 17:50 by CHRISSS
From: Chris (CHRISSS)16 Aug 2014 17:44
To: Dave!! 42 of 57
Ah yes, I see the difference in the keyboards. Some have pretty big spacing compared to that laptop. I like this one just fine.
From: Dave!!16 Aug 2014 22:11
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 43 of 57
Should work fine. I'll test it in my X201 first to be sure. Probably a DDR3 10600 stick. We've plenty from work which are pulled as spares from scrapped machines, such that we have a box full of them (two of which found their way into my X201...)
From: Chris (CHRISSS)17 Aug 2014 20:57
To: ALL44 of 57
Well it turns out I actually have the higher resolution 1440x900 screen. Oohh. That wasn't on the eBay listing. And neither was the built in camera.
From: Dave!!17 Aug 2014 22:24
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 45 of 57
Nice!! Personally, I'd take that over 2GB of RAM any day of the week, as the latter can be easily fixed. Shove an SSD in it as well at some point and it'll romp along very nicely :)
From: Chris (CHRISSS)18 Aug 2014 13:28
To: Dave!! 46 of 57
True. Not gonna change the screen but easy enough to put more RAM in there. And it a nice res on the screen.

I'd love an SSD in it. Surprised how much difference it made to my desktop. Biggest affect I've noticed changing any parts for a while. Makes their whole thing seem so much snappier.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)18 Aug 2014 13:45
To: ALL47 of 57
And it makes me laugh when people get mixed up with their internet and computer going slowly.

I was helping Sian's grandfather with his laptop last week and it was running very very slowly. Same as his desktop. I don't know what he does to them. Something was taking ages to load and I must have commented that it was taking a while. He said his neighbour has the same problem because the phone lines are rubbish and the internet is slow where they live.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)20 Aug 2014 19:29
To: Dave!! 48 of 57
Well the memory turned up today, thanks for that, but... it doesn't work :( I tried it in the slot on the bottom of the laptop and also the one under the keyboard and when I turn the laptop on the screen stays black and nothing happens. Bugger. 
From: Dave!!20 Aug 2014 19:36
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 49 of 57
That's a sod! That'll teach me to be lazy and think "Ahh, that one will be fine, no need to pull my laptop apart and test it". Sorry! I'll bung an alternative one in the post for you that I *WILL* test first this time, and a basic 2GB stick as well in case all else fails.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)20 Aug 2014 19:53
To: Dave!! 50 of 57
Ah, I thought maybe it stopped working along the way here but if you didn't test it then maybe it wasn't working before. And I can't test it in my other laptop because that takes DDR2.

Cool, thanks. I can pay for you to send the next ones if you want.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)20 Aug 2014 20:06
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 51 of 57
Not sure if it would actually be any use but I think this laptop also has WLAN built in. There's a SIM card slot behind the battery so I assume if I had a data tethering plan with some network I could use the internet out and about.
From: ANT_THOMAS20 Aug 2014 20:16
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 52 of 57
My last laptop had a sim slot but it wasn't working.

It needed a mini pci-e card that supported WWAN and WiFi
From: Chris (CHRISSS)20 Aug 2014 20:22
To: ANT_THOMAS 53 of 57
I think you may be right. I saw something under the keyboard that I thought was the WWAN thingy but it looks like it needs another card next to the RAM slot.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)26 Aug 2014 08:43
To: Dave!! 54 of 57
Arrived some time over the weekend, got to test it quickly this morning and it worked this time. Thanks very much :D
From: Dave!!26 Aug 2014 20:31
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 55 of 57
Yay! Was that the 4GB stick as well?
From: Chris (CHRISSS)26 Aug 2014 22:30
To: Dave!! 56 of 57
I didn't try the 2GB. Worked straight away with the 4GB so a nice 6GB now. Been away the weekend so tried it while having my breakfast this morning. So yay, thanks a lot :)

How much of a difference does AHCI make? Or does it depend on the HDD/SSD. Didn't realise it wasn't switched on when I installed Windows so is it worth trying to get it working?
From: Dave!!27 Aug 2014 21:27
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 57 of 57
You're welcome :)

I wouldn't worry about it too much. It does make a difference, but only a pretty small one that probably isn't noticeable. Certainly not enough to worry too much about spending time fixing (and changing to AHCI without a re-install isn't trivial). Just remember to turn it on before re-installing Windows in the future - especially if you ever slap an SSD in it!