Tottenham - what gives?

From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 11:55
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 211 of 298

You seem to have missed the point somewhere in my clever web of sarcasm.

 

I believe that we humans, being imaginative and communicative creatures, are perfectly capable of understanding, as far as one can do so, the experiences of others with just a little effort, empathy and compassion.

 

I've also said several times that I'm sure the majority of rioters are in it 'for the laughs' as you put it, but this is beside the point. If people feel so disconnected from and disaffected with their society/community that they can behave like this then there's a problem... is all I'm saying.

EDITED: 10 Aug 2011 11:55 by X3N0PH0N
From: JonCooper10 Aug 2011 12:01
To: koswix 212 of 298
see, I see that as part of the overall problem

we should all have insurance, but quite often when you need it you find it's not valid for whatever has happened

so I sit thinking "the man" screwed me again

I am a quiet, overweight, middle-aged man living in a very rural out-of-the-way place and I feel that most of those deemed to be in authority in some way have and continue to screw me over on a regular basis

banks - PITA
government - PITA
council - PITA
police - PITA

etc ~ so I can only begin to imagine how people in the cities who are affected by all that much more often and on a larger scale than me must feel
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:03
To: JonCooper 213 of 298
quote:
so I can only begin to imagine how people in the cities who are affected by all that much more often and on a larger scale than me must feel


Not according to Serg you can't.
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)10 Aug 2011 12:09
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 214 of 298
I was being a hypothetical cunt, don't actually label me as one.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)10 Aug 2011 12:12
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 215 of 298
I agree with what you say here, and thank you for summarising your argument to something that my attention span can deal with.
If people feel so disconnected from and disaffected with their society/community that they can behave like this then there's a problem... is all I'm saying.

You're damned right there's a problem, but I think that the problem lies in society as a whole. Parents who don't give a shit, lack of respect for others, booze mentality; the fabric of civilised society is torn. And none of this discourse will make the slightest difference.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:18
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 216 of 298
Aye, I agree.

I think talking about it is a part of the process of it gradually changing (I don't mean we affect change by talking about it, obviously, just that us talking about it reflects the beginnings of a gradual change). Anyway, it's either this or phones and I'd rather talk about this.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:19
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 217 of 298
That makes absolutely no sense (hug)
From: milko10 Aug 2011 12:20
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 218 of 298
there's also the parents who do give a shit but whose kids won't accept their control. Plenty of interviews like that going on lately.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)10 Aug 2011 12:24
To: ALL219 of 298
quote:
Prime Minister David Cameron says Britain will not allow a culture of fear to take over the streets, and says police have drawn up contingency plans to use water cannons if necessary.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/10/police-calm-london-but-riots-flare-across-uk/#ixzz1UclOgqb5



OH NO, not water! Anything but that!
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:27
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 220 of 298
We're not fat like you Americans, a decent quality water pistol can break us in half :C

The stand-in chief commissioner of the london her majesty's police of great britain metropolitan force (or whatever) was talking earlier and said (I paraphrase) "We're going to arrest absolutely everyone who was involved with the rioting".

They're going to need a lot of cells (nod)
From: JonCooper10 Aug 2011 12:28
To: ALL221 of 298
90. Manthorp
COMMENT NUMBER 90 IS AN EDITORS' PICK
52 MINUTES AGO
Why are young people going to listen to politicians, when they've been fleecing the expenses system for everything they can take? Why are they going to listen to the legal system, when nobody has been held to account for abuses within the banking system? Why are they going to listen to the police, who have been taking cash from the press to break confidentiality? Who *has* moral authority?
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)10 Aug 2011 12:29
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 222 of 298
I wish I was fat :C

Yes they sure are!

I like this quote:

quote:
"We want to make it absolutely clear -- they have nothing to protest against," he said. "There is nothing in a sense of injustice and there has been no spark that has led to this."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/10/police-calm-london-but-riots-flare-across-uk/#ixzz1Ucmsg3rX
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:30
To: JonCooper 223 of 298
Man, if only we had someone like that here.
From: Manthorp10 Aug 2011 12:30
To: JonCooper 224 of 298
I'm such a fucking gobshite.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:31
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 225 of 298
Just like those blacks. What exactly is wrong with the back of the bus? :C

And you're a fat fucking yankee cunt.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)10 Aug 2011 12:33
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 226 of 298
I prefer the back of the bus! OMG I'm a negro!

Is yankee a term you use for Americans? Or is it just a North vs South thing here?
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)10 Aug 2011 12:35
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 227 of 298
Yeah, all Americans are Yanks. Or, more often, 'dumb yanks'.

Do you really call us limeys? I like that, it's such a pretty word.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)10 Aug 2011 12:36
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 228 of 298
I've never hear limey until I started hanging out here.

I'm a fat dumb cunt. I like it!
From: oknotok (TG110)10 Aug 2011 12:38
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 229 of 298

It's easy to blame left or right for this. But the fact is that there is a large section of the UK that is marginalised, disenfranchised, disaffected, do not feel a part of a community, do not feel like they have any control over their destiny, and do not feel like they will ever amount to anything, all despite living in one of the wealthiest nations on Earth. And it doesn't solve anything to just say "well I came up from a council estate and look at me."

 

They aren't mindless, they are exerting their influence. And as it became clear that it was possible to do so with impunity, it is barely surprising it spread.

 

I'm not condoning looting, but I can understand where it comes from. Burning peoples houses and businesses - the niihlism - is a much more scary idea. I was talking to mates who live just a couple of hundred yards from Reeves Corner while it was up in flames and they were $hitting themselves - there was no justification for that.

EDITED: 10 Aug 2011 12:39 by TG110
From: JonCooper10 Aug 2011 12:39
To: Manthorp 230 of 298
I think you're spot on, but the idiotic comments seem to get more attention - like this halfwit ~

quote:
116. twoshotron
51 MINUTES AGO
OK - enough!
Someone has got to get a grip.
An immediate curfew in town centres after 20.00 hours until 06.00 next morning; anyone caught breaking the curfew to be arrested and kept in custody until a £1,000 fine has been paid (for a first offence). Rising to £10,000 for a subsequent time.
Also, immediate setting up of "Boot Camps".
Yes! I'm serious!


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